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Onyyn
Serilisson  Global user (4/3/00 1:42:44 pm) Reply |
Novel idea of
the day
Things to do if you come to an Alter Plane that's clear and can't get a repop: Go get some of that xp back that you lost on your last actual break of such a zone (if you lost any). Go play a twink Go watch a movie Go drink a beer There are many other suggestions. However, no where on that list will you find "sit on one's thumbs for a few hours and then yoink repops." The point? Do it right, or don't do it at all. ---- | |
HakNukum
 Global user (4/3/00 2:03:13 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
>>Go play a twink Go watch a movie Go drink a beer There are many other suggestions. However, no where on that list will you find "sit on one's thumbs for a few hours and then yoink repops." The point? Do it right, or don't do it at all. >> Sigh. It's kind of sad to see the most powerful guild on the server so publically against lower level people. Guess it sort of reinforces the elite attitudes you guys are rumored to have. Guess those rumors are based in some reality after all. I'm gonna make sure next time I leave the Lord room in Lguk that I beat down the players coming in after for taking a broken spawn. Oh wait that's different isn't it? Well it wouldn't have been different 5-6 months ago (or whenever the 1st people broke it) when the 1st people broke it. And it won't be different in the near future when Fear is basically broken all the time. You wanna bitch? Spam Verant daily for them fox this "problem". I wager they laugh at you and state there is no problem and it's just the way the game is. So deal with it fellas, ok? Stop looking for reasons to beat people down, and in the process making yourselves look cheap and petty. -- | |
Carathos
Ollathir  Local user (4/3/00 2:10:44 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Sure, do drink a beer, play a twink, whatever. Come back to the plane and zone in. What?? It's not full pop! There is another group of people in here. Now we have lost our chance totally. Face it, people are getting 46+ left and right on this server and there are alot of people able to do the planes. I love full break in personally, but if I can't get a repop, fuck it, I'm going in anyway because someone is going to and it might as well be me. I just wish people would just stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and mind their own damn business. The way I see it, if you are not hurting me in any way, you can play the game you pay as much as I do for any way you like. None of my business what you do and it's none of your business what I do. Carathos Ollathir | |
| Guildon
Global user (4/3/00 4:18:23 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
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I am a bit confused as to why there were 30 people massed outside the pof gate at 11pm pst if they intended to a break. Does this fact seem to be a little strange for anyone else? Let me see if fear is fully loaded at 11pm pst that is 12 mst 1am cst and 2am est. Let's suppose an ideal pof break takes 3 hours to get established assuming you have no problems (i.e no trains to camp). That means you guys would be safe at 2am pst 3am mst 4am est 5am est (euros not included in the equation). Well what if you have train problems? You may not establish a foothold for 5,6,7,8 hours which would mean anywhere from 4-7 am pst 5-8 am mst 6-9 cst 7-10 am est. I don't know about you but staying up 24 hours just so you can break fear seems a bit strange to me. I could be wrong but this seems awfully strange. Here is the more likely scenario: Group b zones in waits for spawn knowing it will come around 2am pst and they will get to kill one mob at a time. This is so easy it is ridiculous. I did the repop camp in december of 99 and it can be done with maybe 9-10 ppl. My question is why were people massing? Well obviously they knew we were in the zone. This fact unfortunately makes it impossible to prove their intentions. If they had not known we were in the zone would they have massed at the pof gate for a pof break? What if we had not done the zone would have they massed at the pof gate only to leave when finding out that if was fully popped? Well no they would have sent people in to check if they had had the intention of breaking the zone. What I am getting at here is that A) Group B sitting outside was dependent on the actions of Group A B) Group B made no inclinations to scout (which denotes they either knew that Group A was in the zone or they had no intention of breaking a full pop) C) Group B claimed to have an agreement that Group would give the zone over at 12pm pst. Ultimately Fact C denotes that the intention was deliberate to farm the zone. Again lets look at the time aspect. The fact that Group B had bargained for a time denotes that farming was to occur. Why would they wait in an open zone when the zone was going to be repoped automatically around 2:30 am. Why not sleep for the additional 3 and a half hours then break the zone? Why sit in a zone knowing it would be empty for 3+ hours. Let me add it has been well publicized that Da`Ice doesn't farm repops. We used to do it if nobody showed an interest but we have decided against it. So I find very interesting that there is a group just waiting for us to leave knowing that we won't farm the repops. Then there is this hogging the plane arguement which doesn't wash simply because if we hadn't cleared PoF would have group B broken in? Well according to Fact C above this shows that the intention was to farm so breaking was out of the question. Guildon Goldenheart 48 Season Erollsi Marr Edited by Guildon
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Sharasali
Shadowsoul .gif){kind=small} Global user (4/3/00 4:29:10 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
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-yawn- Too tired to bother arguing much. "I am a bit confused as to why there were 30 people massed outside the pof gate at 11pm pst if they intended to a break. " And Da`kor and Ice Clan entered at exactly what time into PoF? And I dont remember 30 people. Unless your counting the Da`kor and Ice Clan too "Group b zones in waits for spawn knowing it will come around 2am pst and they will get to kill one mob at a time." We petitioned 3 times. Thats 3 times. No GM response apart from "Ill see what i can do." Okies? "and they will get to kill one mob at a time." Ummmm, isnt that what you guys USUALLY do on raids????? And no, I was pulling twos and threes at a time. The entire area from TT bridge area to the glare lords area was fully repoped basically before we started pulling from there. "This is so easy it is ridiculous. I did the repop camp in december of 99 and it can be done with maybe 9-10 ppl." A full repop? This is with a an experienced monk puller or two isnt it? This is with like clerics in both groups and 2 enchanters isnt it? Some of us arent that lucky, and we dont happen to be as lucky to have every class under the Norrath sun able to help us. Want to try hard? Try having only one puller with any PoF experience. Try doing it with one cleric. Try doing it without an enchanter. Its a lot more taxing. Plus multiple mobs at a time adds spice. 
"My question is why were people massing? Well obviously they knew we were in the zone. This fact unfortunately makes it impossible to prove their intentions." I had already asked someone in Da`kor when they would be finished, and asked if it was ok if we could come in afterwards. I was told that it should be perfectly ok, but that he wasnt sure when they would be finished. I suggested 12am PST and he said that they should be done by then, and that they were going as soon as Cazic Thule fell. So we met started gathering there at 11pm pst, to give everyone time to get there. Is that a good enough answer? And for your points Guildon. We already HAD a PoF raid PLANNED for, i think it was 5pm pst on friday. But what happened? SERVERS WENT DOWN. We started organising again, barely anyone was on, so it was taking awhile, but what happened? Da`kor and Ice Clan started forming up in Feerrott to goto PoF. Should we start barraging you with nasty tells saying that we were organising? No. We should let you go, because you were already organised and were most likely raring to kill Cazic Thule. Do I respect your wishes to goto PoF? Yes. Do you respect my wishes to goto PoF? Seems not to me. "Why not sleep for the additional 3 and a half hours then break the zone? Why sit in a zone knowing it would be empty for 3+ hours." Why not show new people to PoF around? Why not show the people who will be pulling PoF one day where to pull, and where the pathing is screwed? Why not explore so you know where you are if you ever lose your way? And as for your point about knowing the time, we didnt exactly. We heard two different people state two different times. "Then there is this hogging the plane arguement which doesn't wash simply because if we hadn't cleared PoF would have group B broken in?" Plane hoarding? Hmmm, well it seems that Da`kor and Ice Clan invited TSS and SF to goto PoF after them. It also seems that no one told us. It also seems that we arrived on PoF before TSS and SF. It would seem that either:- A) Da`kor and Ice Clan were trying to screw us over. B) They told TSS and SF they were leaving PoF without realising we were waiting to have a crack at PoF (and we were hoping for a full break). And when we logged back in after arranging groups, pullers and such. SF and TSS where on PoF to. Did we scream at them to get of OUR PoF??? NO! I went and spoke to Wauke about how we were going to handle it. I knew there was no reason to shove them off PoF, because they had the same rights to be there. So we were going to split it straight down the middle. Didnt in the end, as they were already tired from staying up. Which most of the group with my party wasnt (did have a few sleepers). But I challenge Da`kor and Ice Clan to EVER say that they have done something similar in that situation. And as to farming. Lets see what we got.... Rogue rapier (decayed) Warrior whip Nautilius Shield (necro accidently looted it) Blighted vambraces TV vambraces Carmine Trinket Carmine Boots Carmine Turban Vermiculated vambraces Indoclite gauntlets And a few wands Wow, so much stuff. I was pulling for 12hours straight and got 1 star ruby, Im such the little farmer. And as I already said, i pulled multiple mobs to make sure it wasnt easy. And we already had a PoF raid planned. So aside from the usual arguements of farming. It doesnt seem like farming to me. And there wasnt 30+people on the raid. 30+ for TWO raid groups. And a lot of people left. And Im gonna start logging everything Da`kor and Ice Clan says to me now. So that way I can make sure I have a proof for any arguement in the future. Smile guys, your on candid camera. Shara Crazy sk with obssessive tendencies. "They dont call me a Knight of Hate for nothing." PS. Anyone have any better ways of pulling around the rotating hourglasses above the fire? The pathing seems a little messy round them. PPS. Btw, Congrats on what you got Da`kor and Ice Clan. I heard you guys got great God loot. I know full well we couldnt have got to CT with who we had near the beginning of the raid.
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| Kalten Unregistered User (4/3/00 7:53:26 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Ok onnyn. We get a beer, watch a movie ect. We come back and there is spawn right? Umm do you forget that SF and TS were in there awell? Do they get any flames cause they were gonna go into fear unbroken? Sorry guys, the server is overcrowded and this sucks. We petitioned ,lets get that straight. Nothing done. Second, it was spamed over guildsay it would be a full respawn. Half the people didnt go cause they didnt have the time for a full break. The other half did. I for one care nothing what you think cause there is no way to prove anything. We wanted a full break period. Hey, I got an idea. How bout you all (people who flame "farmers"(who would really like a full break) lay off fear for a month?) Then we have to do it all by ourselves and cant get flamed. Btw, everyone in there left after 1 spawn. Just wanna make that point clear. Hak, your right, this is sad. Maybe one day people can look at it from both sides and think out what they are going to say. Or yell at verant for doing this. I just hate attitudes that everyone looks for the easy way out. Cause a lot of us dont but they fail to see that. Oh well, no sleep lost here. Guess Ill go back to my easy task of helping build up a new guild and getting people to work together.
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Setis
 Global user (4/3/00 8:28:07 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Quote: For the record your honor, I'd just like to state that you haven't lived PoF until you've done the Amy Temple Conga Line(tm)
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Elwyn
 Global user (4/3/00 8:53:06 pm) Reply  |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Sharasali is it physically possible for you to make a post, just one post, that isn't 2 pages long? Or to post less than 3 times per thread. My god woman.
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| Gerome Global user (4/3/00 9:20:57 pm) Reply  |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Honestly, I don't know that Da`Ice invited SF/TS. Actually, Vendrix confided to me that he had no knowledge of an invite. I'm leaning more towards the possibility that they went there for a break, noticed the farmers, and decided to jump on the farm bandwagon/petition for a repop. However, the evidence that TS/SF does not condone "farming" is further evidenced by the fact that they left before any farming took place.
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| jaieq
muncheon Global user (4/3/00 10:42:49 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
SF/TS were invited to get to Fear quickly, in order to keep the "gimps" out. Who the people that did this I dunno, but I know that much is true :o Jai
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| Graen
Global user (4/4/00 5:17:49 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Quote: You previously posted upset at Ice Clan and Da`kor for taking PoF from you. Just curious how we were supposed to know that you had a raid planned when you didn't mention it. COMMUNICATION...that is what kept these boards quiet for a few weeks, and lack of it is what scorched the screens this week.
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| Bloodbath Unregistered User (4/4/00 5:39:05 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
I vote for guild war.
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| Carathos
Ollathir Local user (4/4/00 8:00:47 am) Reply |
Gerome
Ok, I spoke with Debar since he was the only person I knew in SF that was there and he told me that they had an agreement with Da'Ice to take over the plane once DI was finished with it. Willowbay had been in contact with someone in Da'Ice (no idea who) and they didn't tell her of this, nor did they tell TS/SF that we were planning a fear raid that night either. Also, we were in chat when TS/SF went in because they weren't there when we camped and they were already set up when we logged back in. So, either they had an agreement with Da'Ice about taking over, or they came on their own into an empty zone and decided to "farm". Not trying to flame you guys or anything, but that is how it happened. We even talked to them about sharing the plane and agreed that they get the north and we get the south or something to that affect, but shortly thereafter, they left, probably because they wanted to avoid all the flames as well. Carathos Ollathir | |
| Gerome Global user (4/4/00 8:03:13 am) Reply |
Re:
Gerome
That and because farming is boring.
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| Sharasali
Shadowsoul Global user (4/4/00 8:17:32 am) Reply |
Setis and
Elwyn.
Setis, just for the record m'lord. Its a lot more fun when you have two TT's, a scareling and a turmoil toad.
Im not sure how mobs rate, but I think that scarelings and toads are the hardest mobs on PoF. Just wondering what other people think. <----realised afterwards that the pathing around the stone arch is icky. And id love to try a conga line.
How many in it? I think had one with 5 before on one break I went to. That
was fun.
I got knocked unconcious twice and lived both times. (one time hit for 137 and had -1hps). Elwyn, yup i can. Its just everyone makes loads of points. So i had to include theirs as well my replies.
Shara Crazy sk with obssessive tendencies. "They dont call me a Knight of Hate for nothing." PS. I learned that raid not to pull Gorgons without RM. Owwwwwwwww. 2 Boogeys, Phantasm and Gorgon. PPS. So is sitting in one spot for 14hours Gerome. And thats what most of plane raids are.
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| Vendrix Global user (4/4/00 8:54:13 am) Reply  |
Re: Setis and
Elwyn.
PPS. So is sitting in one spot for 14hours Gerome. And thats what most of plane raids are. We have 4 camps in POF(actually 3 now) and 3 in POH. My ass never sits in the same spot for 14 hours. Vendrix | |
| Thalanthas
Brightspire Global user (4/4/00 9:12:34 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Quote: Actually, lots of people have complained about this, and Verant did not laugh in their face. In fact, they agreed with them. That being said they have yet to say they are going to change it. Thalanthas Brightspire Da`kor
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| Graen
Global user (4/4/00 9:15:17 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
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Quote: I can vouch for the fact that it is impossible for him to sit in one place for that long. Wish I had a screen shot, but one of my favorite scenes is Mr. Purple (Vendrix) here running back with a Cleric of Innorruk on his tail. Graen says, "Um, did MY cleric just pull?"
Edited by Graen
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| Gerome Global user (4/4/00 9:34:30 am) Reply |
Re: Setis and
Elwyn.
Shara, don't take this personal, but your plane raids suck then. That also sounds a lot more like farming repop tactics than clearing a fully spawned plane tactics. Of course, sitting in one spot for 14 hours has to be the absolutely most boring thing I can think of doing with my life. How on earth can you stand to sit and do the same thing over and over for 14 hours. Honestly, if Meg Ryan, Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman, and Sandra Bullock all came and said they'd do wild sexual things to me, my wife, and each other, I'd get bored long before 14 hours was up. And that sounds like an infinitely more exciting Saturday night than a night of EQ. Maybe it's just me.
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| Kalten Unregistered User (4/4/00 9:43:43 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
"if Meg Ryan, Angelina Jolie, Nicole Kidman, and Sandra Bullock all came and said they'd do wild sexual things to me, my wife, and each other, I'd get bored long before 14 hours was up. " Really gerome? I mean the stars maybe but have you seen your wife in action lately? Whoa! (ps. just joking plz dont flame me to hell and beyond)
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| Walterscott Global user (4/4/00 9:46:48 am) Reply  |
Re: Novel
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Who the hell is Angelina Jolie? Walterscott Cleric Level 47 | |
| Gerome Global user (4/4/00 10:03:22 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
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Ha, actually, no I haven't seen my wife in action lately. I think I've been playing EQ too much. :( Angelina Jolie wone the Oscar this year for Best Supporting Actress in "Girl, Interrupted". Aside from being a little freaky when it comes to "loving her brother", she's incredibly hot. IMDB - Angelina Jolie From "Hackers": 
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Synjyn
DragonFist  Global user (4/4/00 10:20:04 am) Reply  |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
LOL, this is funny. Some of you wont "sit in the same spot for 14 hours" in game, but you will sit for 14+ hour in front of the computer to play. This is too funny.
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| Gerome Global user (4/4/00 10:29:14 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
I guess its the difference between play'n a 14 hour game of chess from start to finish, and play'n the open'n 4 moves of a game of chess over'n over for 14 hours. Granted, compar'n EQ ta chess is a bit off, but the point is still be'n made. LOL! Doesn't seem all that outlandish to me. ROFFLMFAO!
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| Setis
Global user (4/4/00 10:33:34 am) Reply |
Re: Setis and
Elwyn.
Quote: I think our best record is about 14 or so Amy Knights/Warriors, with an ocassional TT or glare lord thrown in for spice. Setis Dagre | |
| Kizmet
Bayashi Global user (4/4/00 10:34:01 am) Reply |
Carathos
Quote "I just wish people would just stop worrying about what everyone else is doing and mind their own damn business. The way I see it, if you are not hurting me in any way, you can play the game you pay as much as I do for any way you like. None of my business what you do and it's none of your business what I do." end quote I dont post in these threads much but this I had to say. You are one of the 1st people to speak up against us when we do somthing so why dont you take your own advice?
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| Carathos
Ollathir Local user (4/4/00 12:13:42 pm) Reply |
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Carathos
I afraid you have me confused with someone else Kiz. Sure, I post alot. The only time I remember posting about something you guys did was the naggy twice in one day and if you will read on, I apologized for that remark. My posts are usually when someone flames me or a friend of mine, I like to defend myself and my friends. I am also trying to point out certain aspects that the flame "conveniently" didn't mention. Please, if there is another post where I have remarked on something you have done, show it to me. Carathos Ollathir | |
Celdor
 Global user (4/4/00 12:28:15 pm) Reply |
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Carathos
Kiz! long time no see
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| Sgyde
Global user (4/4/00 12:47:06 pm) Reply  |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Walterscott: "Who the hell is Angelina Jolie?" You've been playing too much eq!
Sgyde Starstrike 48 gnome wizard, EMarr CoT | |
| Sharasali
Shadowsoul Global user (4/4/00 6:55:16 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
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Gerome, how many plane raids have you been on? And how many have I been on? BIG difference isnt there? You basically just flamed me for trying to learn how to live on planes. Im sure Da`kor and Ice Clan had troubles to start with. Im sure TSS and SF had troubles to start with. Im sure DG and Insurrection had trouble to start with. Im sure MS had trouble to start with. And your bitching at me because Im having troubles and your not? But im not gonna take it personally 
Id like to see you go up with a realatively inexperienced group of people and start pulling for them, when you have minimal experience at it yourself. And this isnt a well balanced group of people, which is mostly why Da`kor and Ice Clan raids succeed flawlessly (most of the time). And also they know each others abilities (they only take Da`kor and Ice Clan and misc others that they know). How the hell am I supposed to know what X person is fully capable of? But do I deny them their first taste of a raid? Hell no. "Of course, sitting in one spot for 14 hours has to be the absolutely most boring thing I can think of doing with my life. How on earth can you stand to sit and do the same thing over and over for 14 hours." Its called determination, patience and wanting to help people. Of which its probably very fair or me to flame you and say that you have little or none of these qualities. But i wont.
And btw, if Nicole Kidman and Meg Ryan came up to me and offered wild sexual pleasures for 14hours. Id say yes, and would probably go for the full 14. You'd be suprised how inventive some people can be.
Yet I fail to see the relevence of your point when you yourself said:- "I think I've been playing EQ too much. 
"Hypocrisy. "I think our best record is about 14 or so Amy Knights/Warriors, with an ocassional TT or glare lord thrown in for spice." Nice, all at once or in pairs or couples or one at a time did they arrive? Did i go over two pages again?? Shara Crazy sk with obssessive tendencies. "They dont call me a Knight of Hate for nothing." PS. Got another song buzzing round in my head. Would go perfectly for this part of the board.
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| WillowbayOrelse Unregistered User (4/4/00 10:14:44 am) Reply |
ITS A
GAME!!
From My Earlier Post on "On the issue of farming". Oh and we arent a guild we are a group of ppl that do not wish to leave our smaller guilds to do planes, dragons, etc. When my group was supposed go in there, we were told that the planes would be free at midnight PST. I petitioned a GM for a repop of the zone so that we would have a chance to break-in. The guide said that a GM would be on shortly to talk to about a repop. Two hours later at 12 midnight PST, Bubu told me that Vendrix said "I was missinformed." When I spoke to Vendrix, he said that they were staying. So your earlier statement, Vendix, of "Go in, kill a spawn or two and get the fuck out. Other people ARE in line, if we have to acknowlege that then everyone else should," is BS, because you told me that "well sorry but, we are staying here," which pretty much translates to buzz off. And Vendrix, I cut and pasted that quote from this list on page one, so don't refute it. I have a "raid list" that has roughly 30ppl that do NOT want to leave their guilds of friends to join higher level exclusive guilds that go on raids. We had planned to go into Fear on Friday, but I found out that another guild was going in, so waited rather than make them split the zone as the Guide said we could. On Sat we planned to go in again, and found out that Da'Ice was going in, so that is when we started talking to ppl that were going in who said they would be there till they killed CT, then they leave, being no more than 14 hours total (repop time). So all of my ppl rested up so that they could go in at midnight, roughly 14 hours from when Da'Ice entered. As I said before, I asked for a repop of the zone, as did Da'Ice, but there was no GM on to do it. Is that my fault? Do I have any control over this? Hell NO I don't. When the zone is open, and it is the weekend, when most of my friends (and most people in general are on if you look at the numbers of people) can do plane raids, then I'm going to go in and I could give a F@#$ less what Da'Ice or anyone else says, because I play this GAME to have fun, PERIOD. I dont mind breaking in at all, and we did the past two weekends (sky last week, fear the week before), but if the only way we'll be able to get into the planes is after someone else because they have taken up the whole weekend, then we will. Afterall, it is Verant policy that we can, and we stayed out twice to be courteous, something everyone should learn. If this pisses anyone off, then it is because you have a guild that is up in levels, and you don't have to wait for when ppl can get on, or you can bully ppl out of the way when you want to play in the planes. I can't do that, nor would I do that to others, but I'm not going to cower in the corner while the higher level guilds (who all came from other guilds when they were younger) push there "muscles", lol, in everyone's face. And Aurore was right, it isn't a badge of honor, or a beauty contest winner's doorprize, its just better armor for now. It doesn't imply jack, its just stuff. And some of us don't feel better by simply having just stuff. Willowbay Orelse "Sisters Without Mercy" Guildmistress "because I am without mercy when pushed to far"
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| Vendrix Global user (4/4/00 4:42:15 pm) Reply |
Re: ITS A
GAME!!
Im sure Da`kor and Ice Clan had troubles to start with. Yep, youre right but theres a HUGE difference between you and us. If we failed on a raid, there was no one to clear the zone so that we could do CR. We had to wait, sometimes 5 or so days, for a patch to clear the zone so we could do CR. We never had anyone to follow into POF. We never had the oppertunity to sit on the POF gate killing Cynd until the guild before us zoned out and left us an empty zone. By coming and farming a respawn, you are learning absolutley nothing about the POF zone mechanics. Anyone, including my mom, could pull single MOBs to camp, as they spawn, and gang rape them with 30+ people. Seriously, if you fail at farming...you should quit the game. When my group was supposed go in there, we were told that the planes would be free at midnight PST. I petitioned a GM for a repop of the zone so that we would have a chance to break-in. The guide said that a GM would be on shortly to talk to about a repop. Two hours later at 12 midnight PST, Bubu told me that Vendrix said "I was missinformed." Yes, you were missinformed. I had no idea who you were talking to about a time that you could come in, but I can tell you that they were NOT authorized to delve out that little tidbit of info. Im not the Overlord of Da`Kor(thats Sudo), but I can tell you that there are certain people you should be talking to and certain people you shouldnt. How could anyone, no matter what time you asked, offer up a time that we would be leaving the zone? What if some unforseeable disaster arose that caused us to take longer in getting to Cazic? Did you even care? "Go in, kill a spawn or two and get the fuck out. Other people ARE in line, if we have to acknowlege that then everyone else should," is BS, because you told me that "well sorry but, we are staying here, "which pretty much translates to buzz off. We did go in, kill 1 spawn and leave. Did the zone repop while we were in there? No. Was is going to pop in the next hour had we stayed longer? Nope. We didnt violate what I said in my statement, not at all. We were sitting at the portal out making plans for the next day and petitioning for a repop when you started zoning people in. If there was going to be a repop, you wanted to make sure you were safe and sound on the ledge before it happened. Getting to that ledge and surviving the first couple attacks is what makes a break and break. Whatever. Vendrix | |
| Walterscott Global user (4/4/00 4:58:55 pm) Reply |
Re: ITS A
GAME!!
Sgyde, You may be right but she doesn't look familiar at all. Not saying she's not attractive but she doesn't strike me as a knockout either. Now that girl in Wild Wild West (Thelma Hayeck ?)sp. She's serious babeage! Walterscott Cleric Level 47 | |
| Gerome Global user (4/4/00 6:27:02 pm) Reply |
Re:
Sharisali
And your bitching at me because Im having troubles and your not? Please point out where I said that. I'll requote the entire section of my post as it applied to you, if it helps: "Shara, don't take this personal, but your plane raids suck then. That also sounds a lot more like farming repop tactics than clearing a fully spawned plane tactics." I'll reiterate. Your description of "most plane raids" sounds much more like a group that is using a ranger to farm repops than a raid intended to break and systematically clear a fully spawned zone. The former involves sitting for 14 hours in one spot, the latter involves occasionally moving the raiding party to various spots within the zone. I've come to the realization that it's not your fault though, it's just standard operating procedure in some raids. "Of course, sitting in one spot for 14 hours has to be the absolutely most boring thing I can think of doing with my life. How on earth can you stand to sit and do the same thing over and over for 14 hours." Its called determination, patience and wanting to help people. Of which its probably very fair or me to flame you and say that you have little or none of these qualities. But i wont. Weird, I was talking about boredom, but you chose to "not" flame me about being selfish, so I'll take the opportunity "not" to rebut. I'd say that as an Enchanter helping break Fear in order to help friends and associates get their planar armor, I'm exhibiting the qualities you describe far more than a Shadow Knight that goes to their own class's plane to apparently farm repops. "I think I've been playing EQ too much. " Hypocrisy. Not sure I understand what you're trying to convey here... Firstly, this is completely out of context, and it referred jokingly to the possibility that Kalten was seeing my wife in action more than I was. Secondly, Hyprocrisy is saying one thing and doing the opposite. I originally said sitting and doing the same thing for 14 hours is insane, which does not equate to "I don't play EQ too much." Just a helpful word of advice: I recommend you read the posts once, then speak them out loud to yourself to improve comprehension before trying to reply like that. Now if we could just get Ragnerok and Drall to do the same...
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| Carathos
Ollathir Local user (4/4/00 7:25:35 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Actually Vendrix, you can learn alot in there, full repop or not. What mobs to kill first, where the mobs spawn, where else is a good place to set up camp, etc. Oh, and I'm real sorry that in the old days, you had to wait 5 days for a patch in order to do CR, I really am. But, somebody's gotta be first. If I had powergamed myself to 50 first, I would have been right there beside you, but I didn't. I've gone through some nightmare times, as has everyone else that plays this game, but that's no reason for me to flame everyone that didn't have to do the way I did. Sure (I'll say it again *sigh*) I'd much rather do full break in. It's much more exciting that way. BUT, we could not get a repop and weren't just going to call off our plans for that reason alone. So, call me a gimp, pharmer, whatever. I'm not gonna let a little thing like some's opinion of me stop me from doing what I want to do. I have plenty of friends and it is what THEY think of me that matters to me, not someone I have never even met. Carathos Ollathir | |
| Onyyn
Serilisson Global user (4/4/00 7:46:24 pm) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
The original post was a general statement, not directed towards anyone. I just am of the opinion that you should break a full zone when it comes to the planes. The only points worth replying to in this thread: HakNukum: I'm not looking down on lower level people, I simply opine that it would be nice if everyone did the planes from full break. Gerome: keep on post'n, and I'll keep read'n and laugh'n my ass off
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| Sharasali
Shadowsoul Global user (4/5/00 9:46:11 am) Reply |
Re: Novel
idea of the day
Gerome, I could be wrong, but thats one of the nicest, cleanest flame replies Ive ever had, or heard you say.
Thanks, and now back to bitching at you. -giggles- "Weird, I was talking about boredom" You think I dont get bored? But my point was that some people will stay and help, even though they are bored out of their skulls, and some wouldnt. Its a fair arguement. Anyways, i was being a bit spiteful, i know that you have quite a degree of those three qualitites i pointed out. Some more than others. But your posts on this board itself are with an attitude as in "Screw you guys"
"I'm exhibiting the qualities you describe far more than a Shadow Knight that goes to their own class's plane to apparently farm repops." And again, we asked for a repop, we got none. If we had waited outside PoF for the spawn, we would have most likely lost the plane to your guild and Storms Fury. Im just guessing here, but if we had logged in (after assigning groups), and found them there, and asked to share, they would have said no. (this is a guess, correct me if im wrong). Therefore, no raid that weekend. My chances of getting anything on that, were as remote as getting you to stop posting.
And guess what, the reason ive never been to PoH, is because no one has invited me. In fact id love to go there. I want to see PoH a lot, especially after all the descriptions of the place, and all the deaths that people have had. 
I MAY get something from there, but the chances of that are...what? 50 to 1? 100 to 1? 1,000 to 1? 10,000 to 1? Especially on my first time there. Im not gonna whine and bitch because i didnt get anything. As long as someone comes out with something and it was enjoyable, Im happy with it. How does everyone else define an 'enjoyable raid'? A lot of flames and bitching comes from misunderstandings and assumptions. If everyone wants to come to an agreement, then maybe then, we can have the planes repopped after a group of people or guilds leaves it. Because the gms wont do it just because you dont want a guild farming, but if the gms know that the next one wants to break it, then they will. ( Sitting and talking about intentions is a lot better than shooting your mouth off (not pointing figures, its a general statement). Shara Crazy sk with obssessive tendencies. "They dont call me a Knight of Hate for nothing." PS. Ugh, sometimes i think my posts are really bad. -sighs-
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| Scratcher Unregistered User (4/5/00 10:23:04 am) Reply |
The
Facts
There are a few facts that I want to point out, not to flame anyone, just to stick to the truth. Flame if you like it simply shows that you ignore facts to scream insults and not deal with any of the issues: 1) There are many more people levels 46-50 now than when the folks in Da'Ice first got to those levels, and there will be more coming. They will also be more in numbers than Da'Ice. 2) These folks are going to want to go to new places like planes, and they are going to want to go where they can try to get some new stuff, not for any "badge of honor" crap, just because its newer and better. Just like Da'Ice and everyone else will do when the expansion starts and higher zones are available. 3) The group that went up there with Willowbay had every right to be there, two Guides said so. They waited to go from Friday night as originally planned, to early Sunday morning. But hey, its the weekend when most folks are on the server, so at some point they had to go in if they were going to, and they checked and were told everyone would be leaving. Vendrix may not be the high god of Da'Ice (he says he isn't, I'm not slamming him, just agreeing). However, if he isn't indeed, he shouldn't have written saying they weren't leaving when others in his guild said they were. Logically speaking he shouldn't speak for his guild then, especially since they DID leave. I am not slamming you Vendrix, I'm just using your logic from before, that there are some folks in your guild that you shouldn't talk to because they are misinformed, and since you admitted you weren't in charge, and you said you all were staying, and you all left afterall, then you shouldn't speak for Da'Ice. 4) When Da'Ice was leaving, someone did say that they were going to invite SF and all the other guilds BACK to PoF. It was on the screen. If you didn't see it you were too far away or not paying attention, or were simply going about your own biz and leaving. Nobody was sitting there planning to go back because Willowbay was one of the last folks to go in, making sure everyone had gotten there, and there were only three people left outside the portal, and they weren't Da'Ice, they were two folks duelling and someone else killing for xp. 5) Someone in Da'Ice (I believe it was Vendrix, but I'm not going back to find it so I am not committing to it being him, and do not wish to offend) on one of these threads (Not this one) mentioned that Da'Ice hadn't been to PoF in the past few weeks because they were doing PoS or something. That is probably true, why would anyone assume it isn't? Especially since they were NOT in PoF the two weeks prior. I say this because Willowbay and the lot WERE there, and on one occasion they did a full break-in. I watched it, it was fun and amusing. The problem is someone in Da'Ice, or more than one someone it seems IS assuming that they can't break in. The old saying is true, when you assume, you make an ass out of you and me. They broke in, sorry you didn't witness it, but it doesn't change the fact or make it any less true. In closing, Willowbay led alot of people (but a fraction of the numbers that wanted to go) in the 46-50 range that were not in any single guild into PoF. They have done the break in, and now don't need to do it if time doesn't permit (Fear doesn't sit 14 hours between groups on the weekends for full respawn just like it didn't every time Da'Ice goes in) or if a GM won't do it. Just like every other zone, all mobs pop on set schedules, and nobody demands every mob from zone in point to mob location be fully spawned to say you did it right or had any right to do it. Everyone is going to have to accept that more folks will come, and more will continue to go where it used to be "members only." I say this for one reason that nobody can deny. After Willowbay and the bulk of her group left, there were still people there who took over and lasted another six hours before they had to log (due to it being late Sunday night and everyone having to work Monday morning.) If you can't accept that plain fact, be quiet so you don't look like an arrogant hypocrite. Afterall, the expansion comes in a few weeks and you can move on and not see people again for a good month or two. Scratcher Prolapse Troll Shaman and outside observer to the events that transpired last weekend on PoF
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| Ablazen
Holysword Global user (4/5/00 10:39:53 am) Reply |
Re: The
Facts
i think these boards are making gerome soft...
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