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Drall  
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(4/22/00 4:00:06 am)
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STORM'S FURY HAS SLAIN INNORUK TONIGHT
Storm's fury invaded and decimated the god of hate INNORUK tonight as a single guild only event. Many thank's to all of the sf member's who made this happen and dealt with the lag as another guild was camping another part of hate. Dropped a vexthorne and the ench rod. Ok here it goes, i just gotta say it





WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Drall Daboff
Chef des Generalstabes, Sturmpionier
Storm's Fury

Edited by Drall   at: 4/22/00 4:00:06 am

Zalig Ironstar 
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(4/22/00 4:22:59 am)
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WAAAAAANNNNNNNGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!
What a great night it was indeed Id like to thank all the SF members who stayed up, and to congratulate us on a fine display of teamwork!

WAY TO GO SF!!!

Zalig Ironstar Erollisi Marr Cross me and know Deaths icy grip.

Blessed Bloodbane 
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(4/22/00 4:34:19 am)
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Great job you guys ) Now i can finally catch up on the sleep i've lost during the past 2 weeks due to raids) Damn you drall! =P

Finally goes to show we can make it on our own!

-bless

NicolasKaeje
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(4/22/00 10:08:14 am)
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ah yes i soooo bad wanted the killing blow but one of the casters beat me to it!!

Grats to all on a job well done! The real challenge was staying awake....

Rayn the Halfling 
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(4/22/00 10:19:36 am)
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Wow kick ass! who got the items?

congrats!

Memn
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(4/22/00 10:41:49 am)
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Wang?

*boggle* :)

Ablazen Holysword 
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(4/22/00 10:43:12 am)
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/em thinks Drall has passed his 'Booya' stage, and entered the second stage of psychological development, more commonly known as the 'wang' stage.

jk =) congrats.

bob123456
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(4/22/00 11:35:03 am)
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Enchanter rod went to to yenom.
Vexthorne rotted.

Krevice 
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(4/22/00 2:17:33 pm)
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hello
next time instead of WAAAAANNNNNGGG!

try:

boo-fooking-yah!
or
www.woot.com/booyah!

both sound more like you are having a MEAN-ON and less like you have/are getting a hard-on.

thank you for your time, that is all :rollin .

btw, grats! :)

Krevice

Jubei1
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(4/22/00 4:32:53 pm)
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Just something I wanted to get off of my chest about the "Slaying of Innoruuk"=/

This comes from ME ALONE and NOT my guild. I dunno why SF would invade a Affliction raid in Hate and invoke the PnP play nice policy. That is SO friggin gay. Say what you want SF, point is Affliction was there first, you came second, you knew they were there and you went anyways. Your guild has no respect for anyone, and therefore receives none in return. Any guild that would go into a plane while another is there is pure trash IMO, and only your guild seems fit to do that to people. I wonder why you think your guild deserves the right to enter other peoples raids when no other guild on the server does... oh wait, because you are all trash, by bad =) . Don't get me wrong, I have some friends in the guild, but on the same note I lost respect for them for going into hate when a raid was in progress by another guild. Only you and your greed seem fit to not respect raids, and then call people farmers who only go into planes once a week when you do 3+ times.

Drall once said on one of his lame ass posts something about losing honor and finding it. Perhaps you Drall, should look up honor in the dictionary. Wait, I will do that for you. Westers 3rd Ed defines it as 1. High respect (Hmm no one respects you outside your guild) 2. Good Name or Reputation (don't make me laugh, you kill steal up to 50 and now your got a guild to do it with you, and as for reputation....nuff said) 3. Glory or Distinction (well, if invading camps in the type of distinction you want, count me out).

Don't get me wrong, killing Innoruuk is a accomplishment, but the methods you chose taint it as well as your guild. These are my own feelings towards you and your guild. No need to flame MS, flame me if you can, I welcome anything you can say about my character in the game =) You are scum and everyone knows it. Perhaps you should look up respect in the dictionary Drall, you seem to lack it.

Jubei Kibagami
Proud Officer of the Midnight Sojourn

Blessed Bloodbane 
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(4/22/00 5:29:22 pm)
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***DELETED***

i decided i'd like to have more class than the misinformed babbling idiot who posted above message.

Edited by Blessed Bloodbane  at: 4/22/00 5:29:22 pm

NicolasKaeje
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(4/22/00 5:31:50 pm)
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deleted my post. Some uninformed flamers need to be informed, or do they just have it in for other people?

Edited by NicolasKaeje at: 4/22/00 5:31:50 pm

Drall  
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(4/22/00 5:14:41 pm)
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Sigh
9am est sro tele sf had 3 groups gtg to poh
server's crash
server's come up
about 15 sf and 15 affliction at sro
ask khelder well i can port or you can port whoever's there first get's zone but that's sorta gay don't ya think?
We just want inno and you guys want gear, which wall are you on? OK we'll go to the opposite wall and start clearing the way to inno. ABSOLUTLY NOT ONE NO FROM KHELDER!!!!!
Port up, one group of affliction in poh and one group of sf in poh, we commence clearing to inno, only statics killed were first 3 houses as needed to get to inno etc. Even offered at one point to help res them as they got wiped.
I see no mention of pnp rules jubei so hrmm shove it up your egotistical ass.
Khelder want's to say we did that ok fine but I know and he know's I didnt' force him to do jack and shit. DG forcefully invoked pnp rules on sf last week while we had been in the zone for 5 hrs and almost to inno, they forcefully said we are coming period along with insurrection.
Know what we did jubei, we lived with it, we didn't rant on a public board like a 2 yr old as you just did, and we didn't cry out trying to tarnish someone, as you just did.

Get your fact's straight fool, and oh ya jubei i'm sorry your god, please forgive me I wouldn't want you mad at me because I really care what you think jubei.

Drall Daboff
Chef des Generalstabes, Sturmpionier
Storm's Fury

Edited by Drall   at: 4/22/00 5:14:41 pm

seamyen
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(4/22/00 5:13:30 pm)
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i uslaly dont get in this but your post is directed at me.
first off they were not in hate before us
we got there at the same time
they didnt talk to us beforehand and if the servers hadnt went down it very possible we would have beaten them to hate. we didnt invoke any PNP at all
we wanted to kill innoruk and thats it thats what we did if affliction is trying to make us look bad so they feel better fine but dont go calling me or anyone in the guild dishonorable becuase it just not the case
thats all

Yadan 
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(4/22/00 5:19:31 pm)
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oh wait, because you are all trash, by bad =)

Ok, number one: I would like to state the fact that you, Jubei, need to learn what is fact and what is fiction. You go off and call me trash, look at yourself.. you take yourself to an all-out low by saying anything in the first place. Bite your lip when it is none of your buisness, apparently you were never taught that. My last sentence may have not made sense to you so... let me put it this way, we were informed there was an agreement made, we went along with what was said and that's how we wound up there.

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Only you and your greed seem fit to not respect raids, and then call people farmers.........

Number two, well.. we might hit a plane more than once a week, we did 3 times this week and since I have been in SF this has been the tops. Let me ask you this Jubei, no offense to Maeghant, Ablazen, etc.etc. of my friends with you all of course, but how many dragons have you killed this month might I ask? How many have we killed? That's right... none. One hinderance is the fact your guild is constantly doing one,(yes that's right, if you look at it the way I am currently, you technically "farm" dragons), and you know that to be fact. So don't post bs about farming, when you do it on a much larger scale.

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These are my own feelings towards you and your guild.

Jubei, it takes a mighty small person to judge a group as a whole by what one person says or does. I could have cared less whether I was up there last night or not. Yes it was fun doing what we did, and yes Affliction might have had a right to be mad. I was not there as soon as the servers were up so I would not know, but when two groups meet at the SRo teleport at about the same time and port up just about simultaneously and neither group is going to back down, what can you do may I ask? Since you do seem to be the one to solve all the problems with your last post, maybe I should come to you as my shrink when I have a personal ordeal. What do you say?

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You are scum and everyone knows it.

Heh, I would like to see that proven.

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Perhaps you should look up respect in the dictionary Drall, you seem to lack it.

Jubei, if you consider yourself to be respectful please show it on the board. Do not insult me, I do not appreciate it at all. I will retaliate, and I will not put up with it either.

I don't want this post to make me out as a bad guy to all of you out there reading this. I am sure you would do the same thing in my case if you were insulted just because you happened to be in a group of certain friends.

Yadan Honorbound

Drall  
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(4/22/00 5:19:47 pm)
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Lol I like that jubei
I'm scum and everyone know's it, heh jubei shall i post the names of ms people that are asking to join sf? Heh I think it would umm upset quiet a few if you knew who;)

Rofl Lmao LOL

Drall Daboff
Chef des Generalstabes, Sturmpionier
Storm's Fury

NicolasKaeje
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(4/22/00 5:40:16 pm)
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As far as I'm concerned there is no bad blood between affliction and sf. Yes we both wanted the same zone but our intentions within the zone were entirely different. The only real problem was the horrid lag, and the occasional cross-pulling, but we all knew that was going to happen and it didn't change anyone's mind.

Jubei1
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(4/22/00 5:49:07 pm)
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Hmm for Blessed:
Quote: "i decided i'd like to have more class than the misinformed babbling idiot who posted above message."

Blessed tells <insert male character> "Hi, my name is Blessed, you are cute, can i have gear now? =)"

Blessed has NO right to talk about anyone, and I think anyone that knows you knows that my twist on a Blessed tell is true to the bone. Now go find a new sucker to leech off of.

For Yadan:
I got nothing bad to say about you. Known you for a long time and I apologize to you, my comments were for Drall and a select few others.

For Drall:
Quote: "I'm scum and everyone know's it, heh jubei shall i post the names of ms people that are asking to join sf? Heh I think it would umm upset quiet a few if you knew who"

Any MS that don't want to be in our guild can leave, not like anyone begs anyone to stay and we support anyones decision to leave. Some people let our guild for yours before, but this isn't about guilds, its about me thinking you are one the greediest, arrogent, selfish, and all around scumbags on the server =)

For Seamyen:
Just like Yadan, you are good to go in my book and I have nothing bad to say to you, I apologize for including you in that Drall directed flame.

For Nicolas:
Don't know who you are, and I don't care. I did a /who all on you and saw you are some lvl 46/47 monk or something like that. I got nothing to say about you, as I don't know who you are either.

My post was more concerned about entering a raid in progress when you knew another guild was there. You wanted a god fine, but perhaps it is just me, but common courtesty says one raid per plane and you lack that. In your greed for gear and fame, you lack the qualities that make greatness. Never seen anyone but your guild enter someone elses raid in hate. *tsk* *tsk* Call people farmers, look in the mirror Drall.

Jubei Kibagami
Proud Officer of the Midnight Sojourn

Bevo1 
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(4/22/00 5:55:03 pm)
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It's always a downer when something positive gets turned to crap. I really think this is all a product of misinformation. I was at the SRo portal after the servers came up when Drall and Khelder agreed on how they were gonna set up the camps. There was no "invocation" of the lame Play Nice Policy by either guild. It appeared to me to be a simple agreement between two guild leaders, which was executed according to plan. In the wee hours, when everyone got a bit tired I think we did take some jabs at each other in /ooc for a little while. But I also remember for certain that when Inno dropped the folks from Affliction were being very cool about it sending us congratulations. That was really nice of you guys by the way. Also, when we ported out everyone wished everyone else good luck and everything continued to be positive. Then we somehow come to this.

I am uncertain of two things. First, I don't know where the info came from that SF invoked the lame PnP which we have publicly denounced. That is just factually inaccurate. Second, I don't understand why an MS officer has chosen to referee a "dispute"(does a dispute even exist) between Affliction and SF. Maybe this was just a forum for some personal issues to be vented. Maybe it was just a big misunderstanding. I'm not sure.

I agree with Nic. There is no need to flame MS. I'm told it's a good guild and I'm told Trill is an excellent leader. I also like Jubei. We were Chevaliers together way back when. However, when an officer of another guild refers to us as all being "trash", it's a little difficult not to take offense. I think these comments were made out of character.

Bevo - Evernecro Extraordinaire :evil

P.S. Does anyone else always feel like they are leading with their chin when writing one of these?

Blessed Bloodbane 
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(4/22/00 5:59:26 pm)
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Lol @ jubei. i've never had to beg for gear. but thanks for the thought ) Say all you want Jubei..i never did, still don't and never will give a shit about what you think.

OH..and trying to imply something about me there? you don't know me in rl. you have absolutely no right to make any assumptions about me. this is a game. now grow up.

Drall  
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(4/22/00 6:04:44 pm)
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So jubei I have one simple question for you

Who are you to judge anyone?

Hence we killed Innoruk solo as a single guild with 32 people and instead of posting something positive or not saying anything at all, you have to find something to rant about, childish, extremely childish and I am not quite sure what your true motives are but I have a solid idea.

Drall Daboff
Chef des Generalstabes, Sturmpionier
Storm's Fury

Ablazen Holysword 
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(4/22/00 6:31:48 pm)
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/em didn't see Jubei's Post coming =)
/em bonks Jubei

Thought i'd add a little imput to this thread, as I've always spoke my mind. Two specific points come to mind:

1) Congrats on the slaying of Innoruk. After failed attempts, it's nice to show that persitance payed off. In fact, I had been conversing with several SF and wishing them luck for the raid. Congrats

2) On that note, although you did slay Innoruk, i must comment on 1 fact (take it as you wish). SF has been in hate 3-4 days out of the last week, and although you were 'on a mission', perhaps it should have been taken into consideration that other people would like a 'shot' at Inny, or more likely, be allowed a 'shot at the zone' solo. SF had several chances in Hate before (and at Inny), and they failed (nothing implied). Perhaps it was time to let affliction have the plane to themselves, or some other guilds. Personally, i dislike sharing planes, mostly because of the lag, crossing 'ooc' messages, and perhaps even pulling errors which can happen as a result. These probelms will hopefully be solved with the expansion.

Comment Bevo: Well Said

Comment: Yadan (*smiles*)

As a note to Yadan particularly, I've always felt that doing a 'dragon' or doing a 'plane' is significantly different. There are several guilds that are 'planes' capable (which requires 18 people to break/hold/farm). However, to do a dragon, you need twice as much as this (usually :p ), not to mention specific gear, and specific classes often to succeed. This is where the prime difference is between a dragon/plane is. In fact, I believe Nagafen was up for about 2 days after a patch (the day we killed vox) however no one took him down.

Anyways, i'm done, congrats all who got some Phat L00t, but more importnatly, congrats on taking Inny.







Eurmuthur 
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(4/22/00 6:38:12 pm)
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Ok, I do not speak for Affliction, this is just what I saw last night:

Rhamel flamed my whole guild last night. He accused us of farming, and training. Ok, as for farming: Affliction goes to a plane once a week. Hate was our one plane for the week, and that was it. However, Storm's Fury has been 3 or 4 times. Does anyone else see any logic behind Rhamel's statement? (I am not flaming SF for spending that much time in Hate, I am pointing out that I hate hypocrites). As for training, we had been neutral for 30 mins, discussing things in the guild and not pulling anything, yet Rhamel accuses us again of training your pulling path. I'd like to quote Haknukum and say "Roses are red, violets are blue, Rhamel can't pull and blames it on you." *Cheers Hak*

Lastly, one comment you made to us really disturbed me last night Drall. You told us to go back to farming our own corner. What were you implying by this? Are you accusing my guild of farming Hate? If so, you are terribly mistaken, my friend. We did come for loot, yes, but going to a plane once a week for one spawn is hardly farming imo.

btw, I would like to tip my hat to Yadan for being a very mature individual throughout the night, and congrats to SF on your slaying of Inno.

Eurmuthur Edgecrusher Affliction

Destian Holyknight 
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(4/22/00 6:38:37 pm)
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I was asked by my guild not to post a flame. So ill keep this civilized.

Jubei,

Even in your last post, when you appologized to certain people for the ass you made of youself, you still continue to ignore the facts. We did NOT in ANY WAY invoke 'play nice policy' Heres things from my point of view...

I check the website. There is post there titled, 'Innoruuk Dies Tonight'. We are all hyped. There are about another three hours before the server comes up. We meet in our chat room, and complain about Verrant, blah blah blah, etc. Someone comes in and lets us know that there has been two more hours added to the down time. People kill time, we want to get online and get things underway. People are in and out of the chat room. The two hours pass and we learn that there is to be an ADDITIONAL two hours. We have people constantly trying to download the patch, constantly trying to log in, Constantly checking the server status, etc. Finally, we get the message. "ITS UP!!!" We rush in, by the time i download the patch we have a group up there. This is about 5 minutes after the servers came up. I get ported up and notice there are some affliction up there. I ask what is going on. Well, it turns out they are just there for loot, so there is no real problem. Some of us are kind of angry because the lag is bad, and we are losing people to LD every 10 seconds, but we deal with it. These are the facts.

I guess the point is, they had NO more of a right to be there than we did. They didnt have the plane claimed. They were not there before us. They did not set up camp before us. I dont know what you were told, but you are either not able to comprehend whatever language you were told in, or you were misinformed.

Everything above was simply stating that you are wrong. Now, on to you being worthless.

First thing first. You insulted our entire guild.

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I wonder why you think your guild deserves the right to enter other peoples raids when no other guild on the server does... oh wait, because you are all trash, by bad =)


again...

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you are all trash


You then go on to speak of greed. I, personally, find this rather ammusing. Why dont you tell us about the first SF/MS fear raid? I think that is a fine example of greed. Or the second chance we gave you, in hate? What happened then, or do you so soon forget? Perhaps you are just bitter.

Oh, and one last thing. You question the respect we are given from outsiders? We get multible tells a day from people asking to join because we are not respected? I had about 25 tells congratulating Storms Fury on the death of Innoruuk from people who do not respect us? You havent a clue what you are talking about. You have made a complete fool of yourself. I suggest you cut your losses and walk away.

Yadan 
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(4/22/00 6:41:18 pm)
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Bah, Ablazen you always were the one to disagree =p
j/k

Jubei1
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(4/22/00 6:46:01 pm)
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First off, in my haste for typing my post I inadvertantly included some people that I didn't mean to. I am apologizing to EVERYONE in SF with the exception of Drall and Blessed who both I cannot stand =)

Blessed for you to say you have never begged for gear... ROFLMAO Yes, you don't beg, but instead manipulate men into giving you them. So I give you credit on your skills in manipulation, but no credit in your skills as a player. My biggest regret was talking you into staying on the EM server when you thought about starting over, but in retrospect, I realize now that is just another one of your stupid ploys for attention that you seem to need from any and all that will give you it.

And Drall... i think the second time, or was it third, when you disbaned SF and were guildless for a while, I distinctly remember you saying that you wanted to join our guild or Da`Ice. To bad no one wanted your greedy ass =) And as for my motivites, I used to think you were a cool guy, but then I started reading the Emarr board and saw how you chose to insult people and then I learned who you really are.

Jubei Kibagami
Proud Officer of the Midnight Sojourn

Jubei1
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(4/22/00 6:50:05 pm)
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Destian
About that MS/SF PoF raid. Wasn't on that raid bud, was outa town I don't know what happened on it but I know Trillium apologized about it, and this isn't about guilds, its about my thoughts regarding your *esteemed* leader Drall.

Jubei Kibagami
Proud Officer of the Midnight Sojourn

Destian Holyknight 
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(4/22/00 7:00:18 pm)
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Jubei,

You obviously made it about our entire guild when you called us all trash as i already pointed out.

To go further, and i know many will disagree with this, every member of a guild is a representative of said guild. A mark on any member is a mark on everyone. Insulting, drall, my guildleader, as in insulting anyone else within this organization, will be taken as a personal insult. You speak of honor, yet fail to display even the smallest bit.

Ill sum it up for you:

1. Insulting a guildmember is insulting an entire guild.
2. Making an ass of yourself is making an ass of your entire guild.

Rhamel 
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(4/22/00 7:05:19 pm)
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WOOT!!

Lets get down to business. First off, sorry to Affliction MONKS for my additude last night.. i should of tried to explain(help) in tells instead of using /ooc /shout to express my anger. Yes, you were training the zone and you would never know because it wouldn't have time to get to you... Example: agro a roamer near back of the cleric temple. A cleric inside gets pissed and has to go out the front of the cleric temple, near maestro temple, past ramp to inno, then toward the zone in point . Enough said on that, we got to inno, so who cares. It just took a lot longer dodging shit.

-Yeah, we have been there alot this week.. for loot? nope, we cleared a straight path to inno and went upstairs. People coming in there with no intention of taking out the big dogs. that to me is a farmer. Someone mentioned that this was my 5 th guild this week. hehe, i have been a member of Insurrection, LoV, and now SF. You would be hard pressed to find even a handful of people in those guilds to say a bad word of me.

-You questioned my pulling skill as a monk.. Please find 2 ppl i have pulled for ,not in affliction smoking your pole, who would not want me pulling a plane , or anywhere else for them..

-To take it a step further how does this sound. Me(pulling single) and 5 SF VS 2 of you pullers(chaining) and 5 Affliction. Timed race on an efreeti run... It takes great pulling and speed. Let me know *kisses*

Buh Bye


50th monk of the Whistling Fist
Sesha, Green Power Ranger of the 18th season
Yoodler, Bard of the 8th(yep, you guessed it) song.

Ablazen Holysword 
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(4/22/00 7:19:48 pm)
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>Yes, you were training the zone and you would never know because it wouldn't have time to get to you

This is one of the problems of two guilds in a raid at once in a plane, along with people going LD (both pointed out by Sf commments above). I'm not pointing fingers, but as affliction pointed out, it was there first time in hate during the raid, and was the one raid they do a week (as opposed to SF being in hate several times this week already).

>Yeah, we have been there alot this week.. for loot? nope, we cleared a straight path to inno and went upstairs

The reasons are insignificant. It's equivlent of being on a mission to robe a bank and killing 30 innocent people on the way, and then saying "we weren't there to kill innocent people".

The prescence of 30 additional people probably caused indirectly the death of a couple affliction, our caused a loss of playing time for some members of affliction (and SF) due to LD's.

I'm not attempted to downplay your succesfuly raid, i'm merely trying to point out that you had tried already twice during the week, and perhaps it was time to let affliction have the zone to itself.

>To take it a step further how does this sound. Me(pulling single) and 5 SF VS 2 of you pullers(chaining) and 5 Affliction. Timed race on an efreeti run... It takes great pulling and speed. Let me know *kisses*

Ralik will beat you all!!! =)

Eurmuthur 
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(4/22/00 7:24:43 pm)
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Rhamel, we did not have the manpower to go for Inno last night. So we're supposed to take 20 somethin people and sit on our asses waiting for nothing instead of doing a plane, getting to god ready status? Trying to get better equipment so we can stand a chance against a god makes us farmers? I hate to tell you bro, but you would not go for Inno undermanned and underequipped. That is just plain stupid, and I think even you can comprehend that. I ask you again: Why do you accuse us of farming? I do not see your logic here at all. As for finding people who would not want you to pull: I can't see how anyone would allow you to. You're an arrogant asshole that explodes on people without first talking to them. Cheers.

Eurmuthur Edgecrusher Affliction

Maeghant Tuskbone 
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This is cool, good show!

Enchanter rod went to to yenom.

Grreat! I heard there were some modifications planned for this to make it much more useful as well. Good show!

Vexthorne rotted.

For shame, no rogues in zone to loot? Well, nevermind, I'm sure there was a good reason that a god loot rotted...

Maeghant Tuskbone (The Level Meaningless Rogue)

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Thank god trillium apologized for your crap,don't know why he should have to though, not his fault your a ass, that's right pure utter crap, go flame elsewere big guy, we know your so just and pure. Oh and I hung around ms and was going to be brought in but didn't try to long ago, what's your point? I'm greedy? Heh ok Jubei keep on going keep on flaming but at this point I think you can make enough of a fool of yourself all by yourself so I won't continue, or maybe it's the ton's of tells im getting from ms people apologizing for your statement's here that will make me digress, Jubei your my hero, I want to grow up and be just like you someday, please Jubei tell me how I should be and how I should act. Thank god almighty you don't represent ms and someone with candore,respect and decency like trill does.
Oh wait wasnt it you yourself who invited me into ms when it was first forming because we were friends for so long?
Anyhoot well done jubei you have successfully made a class A ass of yourself and I'm quite sure I am not the only one who think's so. Good luck ;)

Drall Daboff
Chef des Generalstabes, Sturmpionier
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I have sat here for the last few hours debating wether i should respond to this obvious flame by Jubie. For some reason he seems to have problums with SF,Drall, and Blessed. To my knowlage no one in SF has done anything to Jubie in the past, but if they have its up to you as a reasonable person to confront them with these things. not to flame a guild as you have here.

As to farming and the rest, well I belive that farming is happening and there is no way to stop it. Ppl will go into zones and set up camp for items they need and stay till they get them. Thats unfortunitly part of this game. To accuse ppl of it dosent stop it to whine about it only helps you vent and piss others off.You cant tell me that you Jubie have never farmed stuff just as I cant tell you that I havent. Because by deffintion alone we are all guilty of it. I belive if you read the rest of the posts here you will see that PnP was not used and I know none of the ppl in SF would ever use it to try to ruin another guilds raid.

Now on to the Rhamel issue. Rhamel is an excellent puller. He has proven it time and again in the planes. Ablazen is correct in the fact that with mutiple groups in the planes it becomes incressingly harder to pull clean, but to my knowlage none of our pulls ended with Affliction being trained or any of there monks taking the hit. Tempers did flare towards the end with a 5 MOB train going up the ramp to Inno, we do not know were it came from but I belive it was a crossed pull that caught the back end of our ppl going up the ramp. Rhamel did lose his temper and /ooc somthing unfourtinetly I was in the Arena when that happened and I belive appologies were given afterword. As for lag well what can I say ppl LD all night it happens we lived with it and so did affliction.

As to all of us in SF being scum, dirtbags or whatever you want to call us, I wont justify this with a response. Drall is an outstanding leader and has all of our support and confidence.

If you do feel you need to complain about our guild or one of its members. Please direct it to that individule, or to Lith who is our guild officer in charge of complaints.

Zalig Ironstar
Guild Officer Storms Fury

Edited by Zalig Ironstar  at: 4/22/00 8:32:57 pm

Ruffeo 
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We did good...
OK, just wanted to tell all my guildmates we did a hell of a job last night. Drall, you are the man, you kept us organized and kept us on our feet and awake all night. WE all did a great job last night. Yes, Yenom got the rod w/infinite clarity castings, and yes we let the rogue "god" weapon rot. Our rogue was in lguk, he was suppose to come into poh and grab it, didn't make it in time, thats why it rotted.
Ack Jubei! Don't say that type of shit! I know that this is a "flames" forum and this is where you're suppose to place such comments, but please Jubei!!! That shit you wrote?! It's BS!I've known you since lvl 9, I have never ever, seen you like that before, all this plane's shit, it's corrupting ppl! Ppl all over norrath are going stir crazy over planes this and that, ppl not getting along, ppl, ack, wtf am i talking about? <slaps himself> *hasn't had any sleep for 2 days now* well, as i was saying, Jubei, chill out bro...

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Bah,

I keep trying to post on this and I get something else handed to me to do at work.

Anyway, Jubei I would like to say up until your post on this thread I had the utmost respect for you. I will give you credit for saying that your post does not represent MS (being friends to a few of MS members, I respect your guild for those few people I know are great people and I know they would keep only the best of company). One thing you forgot to omit was at the end of your post, stating you were a proud officer of MS. What conclusion are people supposed to come to?

I will qualify now. I was not in on the insertion to the POH nor for 90% of the raid to kill Inno but it is my undrstanding that some sort of arrangment was made with Affliction for the raid. As Ablazen and Rhamal have pointed out there are inherent problems with 2 guilds in a raid on a plane (pulling problems and LD problems). This was endured by all involed in the POH. Yes, maybe there is a better way to handle this in the future, any feedback from anyone would be greatly appreciated.

As to our being in POH several times this week. Yes, we were, but as someone stated earilier, they were not loot runs, they were what you might call training runs for the big fight. Learing the zone, getting our tactics down pat, etc. Was this unfair? Probably, and for that I apologize. However not many guilds do planes runs during the week (I could be wrong correct me if this is so). If these runs had been loot runs, I and a lot of other SF would be wearing a lot more planes gear than we are now. Yes, we got loot but it was not our primary function this week.

Drall greedy? I can go along with that. If wanting the best for those in your guild and wanting to be with them when they reach new heights beyond the norm is greedy, then Drall is one greedy bastard and I love him for it.

Farming? I think Zalig pretty much summed that up.

I would like to give major props to the members of SF for the kill of Inno (I went LD after casting one heal and wasn't able to get back in time for the kill, you bastards killeed him too fast:) and maybe it was just poetic justice being I wasn't there for most of the raid:) ).

I would like to leave this in saying that ANY problems with SF members should be taken to me. If you could do this, your cooperation would be greatly appreciated.



Da Pope,
Lith Ahntalon
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I just find one thing interesting, and kinda funny at the moment....Someone said above that 'if you have a problem with the guild [SF] you should direct a tell to that individual to resolve the situation'. This is more a paraphrasing of something above, i care not to look for at the moment.

But now Lith is stating that one should contact him no matter who the problem is with i.e// "ANY problems with SF members ".

I'm just inquiring why you have 'one official problem dude', and why cna't problems be resolved on a face to face basis, without a 'moderator' of sorts.

Anyways, congrats on your achievement, and congrats to Drall for oraganizing the event.

>However not many guilds do planes runs during the week

This was not true before, but is not true now) I think the planes are taking every day of the week now.

Edited by Ablazen Holysword  at: 4/22/00 9:25:01 pm

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Ablazen,

First of all thank you for the correction on the planes runs on weekdays. As I stated, I could be wrong.:)

As to the issue of a mediator. You bring up a good point. One should first try and work it out with the person in question it is always the best way to handle things. Should the problem not be solvable with said member and you feel you need to speak with an officer I would be the one to speak with. Perahps I misrepresented myself and thank you for catching that. As to why I am the person to speak to otherwise, it is so Drall can concentrate on other issues concerning the guild. Nothing more, nothing less.


Da Pope,
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P.S. Problems concerning the guild as a whole can be brought to any officers attention.

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Heh I still don't understand were the fuck Jubei got involved in issue, and Ablazen if that's true why did jubei do this.
As i said before childish.

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Kzzern
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As a monk, and a friend of many monks, and since I know a lot of the facts surrounding what happened that night, I feel I need to respond to you Rhamel.

> Example: agro a roamer near back of the cleric temple. A
> cleric inside gets pissed and has to go out the front of
> the cleric temple, near maestro temple, past ramp to
> inno, then toward the zone in point

This is actually correct :) there is a specific cleric that does this. It's an easy problem to explain though, and easily avoided by the pullers of the other group (if they were told what the situation was). For someone that's never pulled in that area, or doesn't have a good knowledge of the zone layout, it's very difficult to figure out if something will aggro from the other side of a wall. If you want to fight in a plane while another group is there, you should be prepared to communicate with them on these kinds of problems (regardless of who was there first). Planes are extremely buggy. It's virtually impossible for two groups to work a plane at the same time without affecting each other in some way. So communicate, bug out, or be ready to suffer the consequences of Verant's bugs.

> People coming in there with no intention of taking out
> the big dogs. that to me is a farmer

I'm not sure what this implies about 'farmers' according to your definition, but there's one thing you should understand. The 'big dogs' you mention are not very big at all. Don't let the big polygons and phat lewt load fool you. For a solid group, Dracoliche, Cazic Thule, and Innoruuk are marginally more difficult than the roamers that surround them. Their magic resistances are pitiful, their HP and regen is sad compared to even dragons, their AEs are insignificant and easily resisted, and their melee can't ever affect more than one person at a time. Maestro is the exception, he is 100% MR, but his melee is sad and his HPs sadder, so he can just be beaten down. The somewhat difficult part is clearing to these 'puppies', and getting them single, and even that is simply a matter of finding a map (or having someone *cough* show you the way *cough*) and, ofcourse, some time and patience. So putting down others for killing mobs in the plane and not going after 'big dogs' is pretty silly... especially given that the particular group you were mentioning had 20 ppl and 1 48th cleric.

> You questioned my pulling skill as a monk.. Please find 2
> ppl i have pulled for ,not in affliction smoking your
> pole, who would not want me pulling a plane , or anywhere
> else for them..

He only has to find one, because I wouldn't want a monk with your attitude pulling for me in a plane. Pulling takes patience, knowledge, endurance and concentration. What you did in hate, and your post here, to me speak very clearly that you're lacking in all four. And no I don't need to have you pull for me to make that call... no thanks.

> To take it a step further how does this sound. Me(pulling
> single) and 5 SF VS 2 of you pullers(chaining) and 5
> Affliction. Timed race on an efreeti run... It takes
> great pulling and speed. Let me know *kisses*

Not much of a claim. Pulling to the efreeti is actually fairly easy. 4 people and a monk can clear to the efreeti without a lot of problems. And a "timed race" doesn't mean much either. The spawn is 20 minutes, so you either make it, or you miss the boat. Verdunae pulled for a single group of us the other day all the way to the efreeti with no problems... and not to bag on her skills or anything... but she's still a young monkette compared to some of the old school badasses that you will never know :D and who coincidentally never needed to boast about their accomplishments like you do.

So in conclusion,

HADOKEN!

Cyas

kzz

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btw, Thanks Kzz/Kor from all of Affliction for your help last night. Much appreciated bro.

Eurmuthur Edgecrusher Affliction

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Jubie. we need to talk

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farming
hmmmm everybody has farmed a plane at one time or another to say they havnt is a croc how else did all of u get your equipment! Im pretty sure inno hasnt been killed everytime a guild goes up there!

pls dont flame me just an observation on all the equipment everybody has yet everybody claims they dont farm the planes for loot an gear =)

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>and Ablazen if that's true why did jubei do this.

*shrugs* if whats' true? Sorry =) Please quote posts, makes things much easier.

Kzzern summed up the 'big mobs' pretty well, they are not 'all that difficult' for the points kzzern brings about. As an example, our guild has started doing dragons fairly regularly, and we do them with minimal deaths, but the Maestro after patch layed a beat down on us (while before the patch we would take him out without ANY deaths before patch).

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ack....wrong forum =) sorry

Edited by Ablazen Holysword  at: 4/22/00 11:14:02 pm

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Lol, go fight inno please and tell me he's easy ablazen, that muther make's ct look like a orc pawn.

Also ablazen I meant in response to you saying deal with thing's face to face, well look at jubei and his public rant/flame without even talking to me heh.

Bottomline I could give a fuk less what he think's, sf beat and destroyed inno, and correct me if I'm wrong but less daice noone on emarr has even fought him yet beside's sf.

GM praos and zintlit's were there to cheer us on and grat's us for being the second guild to not only fight inno but beat him to on em and cheer us for doing it as one guild as well.

Bottom line


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Edited by Drall   at: 4/22/00 11:39:55 pm

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Kzz,

I never claimed to be the greatest single monk around.. I easily step aside to better monks on the server that i know. Synjyn, Ralik(as Ablazen pointed out) I have expressed this to both of them, and am friends with both of them

I appologised to Khelder later that night and he said he would pass it on to his monks. All done? Nope, Whoever this guy is decieded he wanted to bring it up again. I didn't pose the challenge to brag. They questioned my pulling(don't belive i ever grouped with more than 2 of em) so i'm assuming they have better.
Nothing in this GAME is hard to pull.

And how my posting, reflects those magic 4 qualities of a puller, i don't know? We have conversed before and always been pleasent to one another. Things got hot last night and things were said that shouldn't have been. Oh well, i won't lose sleep over this and I didn't bring it to the board..


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First of all, grats to SF for killing a god, well done.

No "PnP" by the definition of PnP was in effect. However, there are a few points that i should point out that make *me* upset with SF.

1) They were in hate plane all week. Everyday I ask one of their members they said "were killing a god tonight".

2) On wednesday I had confirmation from every guild to go to hate on friday. I ask a member of SF to tell the guild...the guild reply was ok. Now I found out on your message board there is a post saying "INNO DIES TONIGHT". You blatantly made plans that get in my guilds way for to achieve a goal that you guys have had for the past 4 days. That shows me 2 things about SF. Greed and Disrespect. Everyone flaming Jubie for being an ass? His facts are somewhat off, but his points are quite correct.

3) Rhamel rhamel. Plz dont try to defend yerself with this point. For 30 minutes we sat in our corner and did NOTHING. (waiting for more monks to port up). Then in occ you ramble about us training you or something. So we train you because we were sitting still? Just admit you made a screwed up pull or something. You gave me an apology in game, but your comments on board take away that apology pretty much.

4) Farming? Drall and rhamel.
Dralls quote: "Shut up and farm your own corner"
lol you have got to be kidding me. We got completely wiped out 2 times breaking into that corner. We are attempting to fight in a corner not many guilds fight in, rather then just invis and running halfway around zone to safe spot. Rhamel called us stupid for trying this challenge. That implies that you should take the easy way out. Plz dont call us farmer, when you know we farm no more, if even as much, as you all.

5) Vexthorne. No rogues in the zone eh? What about me slick. You knew I was in the zone. Personally, I'd rather earn my own then go take yers, however your lack of generosity to me tells me a lot. I could have easily speedlooted that vex and gone on my way and you know it.
btw...repeat armor dropped for us and we asked ppl not in guild to come up and loot it if they want. DO tarsis shriners like me? I dunno, but we still made one of their members happy this weekend. Grats on the arms Shadowe.

6) On thursday and friday I got tells form sf members asking what we are doing tonight. I said Hate plane, they said cool. Just shows more lack of disrespect.

7) guys, server is overcrowded. being 4+ nights in a plane coulda mean a few things and is disrpectful. period

My personal thoughts/feelings towards SF have gone down a lot this past weekend. They show no effort to work things out with others and care only for themseleves. I have spoke with vendrix, synjyn, trillium, ethaniel, omisan often about my plans. Our guilds sometimes clash, but no big problems recently. Even tho dg somewhat used pnP on us I still respect them because they tried to work it out, gave me their emails, and left.

Im missing something in this post prolly, but im going to sleep for now and ill post agian if think of it.

PS: thanks a bunch koryo. You helped more then you can imagine.

Khelder -=Affliction=-

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Kheld, There was no pull when this happened. I am the first to admit when i fook up a pull. I had been feigned for some time while the rest of the guild were going to the ramp. Maybe it wasn't your monk standing moving then re-fiegning, but it was the same few mobs that had been agro'd and running toward the portal area all night.


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Ablazen Holysword 
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>Lol, go fight inno please and tell me he's easy ablazen

I have, including all the dragons, all the gods, and including plenty of Sky mobs. I Didn't say he's easy. Please read my points carefully. I simply agreed with what kzzern said.

>Also ablazen I meant in response to you saying deal with thing's face to face, well look at jubei and his public rant/flame without even talking to me heh.

I agree =) I never supported Jubei's action, in fact, if you look at my first post, i believe i 'bonked' jubei. I agree this should of not come to the boards.

>Bottomline I could give a fuk less what he think's, sf beat and destroyed inno, and correct me if I'm wrong but less daice noone on emarr has even fought him yet beside's sf.

Well, i'll correct you. There are many independents who fought along Da'ice.






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Happy easter.
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't you love Cadbury's creme eggs?????
More than 2 will make you sick though, eat in moderation.

Dambala Blazebringer, Kill Crazy Rampage Mage

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Quote:
Blessed tells <insert male character> "Hi, my name is Blessed, you are cute, can i have gear now? =)"



Hehe, this is funny. Just off the top of my head I think I can name 6 or 7 friends that Blessed has proposed to. All of them level 50, all of them in powerful guilds, and if I've heard of that many, I wonder what the actual total is.
My first conversation with her ever (never having met her) was a tell in which she asked me if I was married or not and how sexy she thought bards were. ROFL.
Should probably have taken "Golddigga" for a last name ;)

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Hehe...yeah elwyn good one. Funny..i don't remember anyone so obviously they weren't important or i was just on crack at the time. =P

Other than that i have better things to do than flame someone on the boards here. too bad you don't.

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Sigh...

Khelder is dead right...on all issues:

* Rogue Drop from Inno rotted. People knew Khelder was only Rogue in zone. Hey, wanna let it rot? Cool with me. Bear in mind we called one our your guys over earlier to loot armor we couldn't use. Guess the courtesy couldn't be returned.

* Sharing a plane. Well we called it, and had it. And whatever Drall says, they pretty much barged in. Affliction wasn't allowed the respect to have the zone alone. Khelder is a nice guy and gave in not wanting to make waves.

* Kinda sad when the mini flame war was going on with Rhamal/Drall and us (100% initiated by them), that several (meaning more than 5) of the SF guys were /telling me "Man, I'm sorry. They are acting like dicks." Way to instill respect guys.

* Drall had the gall to say things like "Shut up and farm your little corner" and MANY other condescending, cursing or inflamatory remarks unbecoming of a guild leader. Way to go Drall. Lead by example.

* They actually had the nerve to ask us to LEAVE the plane to reduce lag for Inny. Um, we broke in, and kept to our side. You want Inny? Fine. Do it. But we're compromising by allowing you in there (unless you want to just barge in and do what NO OTHER guild does), so you have to deal with the situation. The nerve of asking us to leave. Why didn't you leave? You were causing us lag too.

I should dig out the logs/screenshots and post the stuff, so you can all see it and judge for yourself. We sure have nothing to hide. And in fact had some fairly funny responses if I recall ;)

I have a prediction. Eventually a lot of people in SF will opt to leave for guilds of equal power that don't have quite so rude and obnoxious leaders. It will happen. Just a matter of time.

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Malbian
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Hot damn, all this board is about is tearing down the other guy, talking smack. Hot diggity! Ogmuk should be proud!

Elwyn, you stone thrower, you are the biggest sellout on the server. You quit your own guild to join the most prestigous guild at the time. Sounds like you 'married' into fortune. No honor whatsoever, and zero loyalty. (gee, it sure feels good talking smack about people)

Jubei, you are a riot. Trillium's stance on all this hoopla is about the exact opposite of you.

I think this game is getting to people's heads. The crap to wade thru is getting kinda thick.

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rofl =) this is getting out of hand
/em sighs.
/em goes to play Quake 2.

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wow looks like i missed a good thread. took me an hour to read most of it.
heard more about this in game then here.
heres what i wanna know.
WHO WAS THE SPITEFUL PRICK WHO DECIDED TO LET THE ROGUE RAPIER ROT EVEN THO KHELD WAS IN THE ZONE!!!!????
please tell me your name so i and all these good people can see how KEWL you are for doing that.

Malbian, Elwyn knows more about your class than you do. why put him down when you did the same fucking thing and much fucking worse you corrupted guildies from other decent guilds to leave as well.

this is pathetic guys. Inno/Cazic are hard yes . but as hard as dragons? no fucking way. please refer to Kzz post for the hard facts. this is merely an assassination of a god not a all encompassing clearing/conquering that Da`Ice, MS and a few other notables have done.

tomorrow the expansion goes live. it will be interesting to see which guild will explore the new zones and which guilds will stay in guk and farm that 10th ykesha they need.

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My response to you Rhamel was an expression of my personal opinion, with some "fyi"s thrown in. I think that you handled the situation in hate poorly, and I also think that your 'farmer' label makes very little sense. As far as what I meant about how your posts/actions speak about your ability as a puller: the best pullers I know have cool heads, patience with both the game and the people that play it, and don't feel a need to boast their abilities. You didn't have a cool head when you yelled at Affliction in hate, you didn't have the patience to talk to their monks, and you certainly boasted here.

Yes, we have conversed a few times, and I think my post was still courteous... although it did express some of my disappointment with your attitude. In fact, had we not spoken before, I probably wouldn't have even bothered to respond to you here.

If you have mad styles... just shut up and use them... I know I sometimes make the mistake of boasting... but every once in a while I stop myself and remember that no matter how badass I think I am, there's a guy out there who's my daddy no contest. If you need a humbling, feel free to look at foh.noows.com .

kzz

drall : "that muther make's ct look like a orc pawn"

Actually, CT and Inno have the same HP, the same regen rate, the same resistances, the same melee, the same DT recycle time, and the same AE. CT can toss your tanks farther away(no walls/ceiling), so they lose more melee rounds to running back... but in hate you can't cast levitate spells, so Inno's flux actually does some damage. All in all, singly fought, Inno and CT are equal in difficulty.

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C'mon guys. You're all supposed to flame us :D We're used to it :)


Congrats to all who've killed Inno!

Personally I when we started Da`Kor I thought nothing would be better to do guild only raids, but those thoughts changed fast as we did the first PoF raid with IceClan and GDI's (unguilded people). Nothing better than owning in an alliance :D



Rhamel 
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(4/23/00 4:39:29 am)
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Well put Kzz,

The reason i lost my cool was this:

Rhamel shouts: Jeez, nice train. you just pulled 5 clerics right past us..

Affliction_puller_00 shouts: =)

Yeah that got me and i was very unpleasent the rest of the night.


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Tuan
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(4/23/00 5:12:36 am)
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Ok i just have one thing to say in response to something someone said...

"I ask what is going on. Well, it turns out they are just there for loot, so there is no real problem."

I just really hate statements like that... Ofcourse pepole goto planes for loot, don't make it seem like because SF went up there to kill inno that you weren't doing the same ammout of "farming" or whatever you want to call it... If this statement didn't mean what I think it meant, well sorry, but i'm trying to make a point anyways.... not flaming, just making a general statment about what the planes are for.. besides the breakin "fun", which is only fun for so long and for the first few times... _everyone_ goes to the planes for loot, and yes fun.. plain and simple.. no one is a farmer unless they hog a plane which i'm not saying anyone did

oh yeah one more thing.. to whoemever decided that Khelder should not get the Vexthorn even thou he was up in hate and no one else was there to get it, and was calm enough to handle 2 guilds in a plane... and never gets out of hand and always handles situations in a good fasion and is a great guy in general... well, i think you know what i'm thinking... that was low.. really low

tuan {cupcakes}
lv50 cleric
midnight sojourn

Edited by Tuan at: 4/23/00 5:12:36 am

Verdunae 
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Not much of a claim. Pulling to the efreeti is actually fairly easy. 4 people and a monk can clear to the efreeti without a lot of problems. And a "timed race" doesn't mean much either. The spawn is 20 minutes, so you either make it, or you miss the boat. Verdunae pulled for a single group of us the other day all the way to the efreeti with no problems... and not to bag on her skills or anything... but she's still a young monkette compared to some of the old school badasses that you will never know and who coincidentally never needed to boast about their accomplishments like you do.


*scratches her head*
*looks around*
/say agro looks clear...
...
*all the imps/guardians from the ramp to just outside of the efreeti room swarm into db room*
5 guildmates have given you consent to loot their corpses.
*remaining cleric res's all bodies in Efreeti room*
a_guildmate_00 says, "that was the fastest efreeti break i've ever made"
/em smiles sheepishly.



-Verd
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Ailae 
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(4/23/00 5:31:26 am)
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/waves at everyone
/bonks the flamers
Just play and be nice dammit! Causing so much conflict makes the game that much more unenjoyable. (is that a word?)~shrugs~
Fighting and flaming eachother never seems to get anyone anywhere imo. You got a problem, bite you friggin lip if you cant handle it in a mature fashion. There always is going to be something going on that you wont like. Can you change it? Not usually. Can you live with it? You sure as hell can. I personally dont see what came out of this post but some strong dislike for people.
Anyways, grats on Inno, good job peeps.



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Burro Bristlefoot
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(4/23/00 8:11:57 am)
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Something people forgot to mention was we were trying to get Kaluminati up to loot the Vexthorne. In a previous thread Kheldar had told my guild to kiss his ass. I only posted this because I know some people are trying to slam us about the Vexthorne and saying we should of let him loot it.

Edit: Corrected message accordingly.

Burro Bristlefoot
Level 50 Halfling Cleric
Officer of Storm's Fury
Erollisi Marr

Edited by Burro Bristlefoot at: 4/23/00 8:11:57 am

Khelder 
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Didnt call you bitches, no. I did say something rude to you all, but ONLY after your guild (drall) called me a scrub, gimp, loser, and one other name. I'd say Ive reacted fairly calm from that AND while you where in the zone I only said about 3 statements to your guild. None of which were harsh...they all basically said "drall, tell the truth to your guild." We somewhat shared that zone in peace...yet still no appreciation or recognition of it. Thanks.

Khelder -=Affliction=-

Xarathas Tane 
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(4/23/00 8:31:41 am)
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Definition of a farmer
My Def. of a farmer:

one who camps items for the sole purpose of profiting.


Frankly... 20 people in a zone trying to get better equipment for about 10 people (where the other 10 are prolly exepecting to get nothing) who needs them is not farming, just simply friends helping each other get better pieces of equipment.

/em is not flaming anyone... just giving my 2cps


Xar ;)

Destian Holyknight 
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(4/23/00 8:33:22 am)
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Burro is short.

That being said, I have a few more things to add to this arguement.


First, THERE IS NO BREAK IN HATE! This is why people get labled farmers. Anyone can go up there and kill mobs, loot them, leave, without a problem. Someone pointed out there dislike for drall saying, "they were just here for loot, so there was no problem" (paraphrased). Well, could you perhaps give another way of putting it. There was nothing derogatory (I cant spell, forgive me) about that statement. Drall was simply letting us know that they would not (intentionally) be in our way.

All right, Kzz, you basically said that the gods are easy. I beg to disagree, but this is not my point. No one, on anything less a Dick raid (whether others were there is irrelivant, it was your raid) has EVER killed Inno. Therefore, I feel this is a large accomplishment. Regardless of its difficulty (and he sure as hell wasnt "easy").

Killing a dragon is nothing like killing a god. First of all, dragon roar is much easier to resist compared to Gravity Flux. Obviously, you feel otherwise, and we could argue back and forth all day without an outcome. All i will say, is that for ME, there has been no contest, maybe i have been extremely lucky on dragons and extremely unlucky on gods. Ive resisted gravity flux maybe 1 in 5 times. I resist dragon roar most everytime. If i ever find myself running, i am suprised. As i said, maybe its just me.

On to the rogue weapon rotting. I first want to ask, when was anyone in SF called over to loot something in the affliction camp? I dont see this as a big deal, but yes, it shows courtesy, and someone pointed it out. I dont recall this ever happening. Now... most importantly, we didnt kill Inno and think, hey, this is going to rot. We thought, shit, lets get our rogue up here. Granted and needless to say, he didnt make it. HOWEVER, even if we had not had someone on the way, it is still up for debate whether to have someone outside the raid come up and simply loot something which they in no way earned. If the decision was left to me, i honestly do not know what i would do.

About mistakes... everyone makes them. We have made them, dick has made them, we all have. However, on that night, we made no mistakes that effected affliction. We, on the other hand, were basically run over because they let a spite run. We got trained, pure and simple. This was the first thing, and there was no apology. Then we head up to Inno, we get ran over, 6 mobs. ouch. this is when things got out of hand. Needless to say we were angry. Comments were made. I think the situation was solved when i simply shouted, "Why dont we ALL shut up?" and everyone agreed.

Back to the original issue, Affliction did not do us a favor by LETTING us up there when they were. We had just as much right. I still dont know where this is coming from. We did not come up while they were there. We planned it all day, then as soon as the servers came up, we were there. Ill admit that things were a bit silent between the two groups, but i do not see how storms fury is at more fault than affliction. Perhaps, im missing something, maybe someone could explain.

Thats all for now. ::sigh::

Khelder 
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Ugh, k I think this will be my last reply to this thread.

"First, THERE IS NO BREAK IN HATE! This is why people get labled farmers."

If this is so, then you are 3 times as much farmers as us, because you were in hate 3 days "prepping for inno" and one day actually doing it.

"when was anyone in SF called over to loot something in the affliction camp? "

This never happen..someone misinterpretted this during the thread. They meant to say we called someone outside of guild to come get loot.

"We, on the other hand, were basically run over because they let a spite run. We got trained, pure and simple. This was the first thing, and there was no apology. Then we head up to Inno, we get ran over, 6 mobs. ouch. this is when things got out of hand. Needless to say we were angry."

We have explained this roughly 20 + times now. We were doing NOTHING and you said we trained you. Oh, but I forgot. We are scrubs and your are a flawless powerful uberguild...you couldnt never admit to screwing up on your own. The reason their was no apology is because we did nothing wrong. Pure and simple.

"Back to the original issue, Affliction did not do us a favor by LETTING us up there when they were. We had just as much right. I still dont know where this is coming from"

Your guild SAID we could have hate on friday. Your guild had hate the past 3 days. YOU WERE BEING GREEDY AND DISRESPECTED what you previously say. Lets see how you feel. We will go farm hate for 3 days, then say you can have the zone the next day. well, the next day comes along and it turns out you cant have the zone because we insist upon sharing it.

"We planned it all day, then as soon as the servers came up, we were there. "

More disrespect, because, again, you said we could have the zone then intentionally planned to get in our way because your mission was sooooooo much more important then our pointless 'farming'.


"Ill admit that things were a bit silent between the two groups, but i do not see how storms fury is at more fault than affliction. Perhaps, im missing something, maybe someone could explain"

If you cant see this by now then the subject should be dropped. All points have been made, you can look at it how you choose. Your stance on the subject just informs me more of your character. Once again the server is overcrowded...the NEED to be in hate 4 times a week is a problem. Plain and simple.

PS: Because of your guild (mainly rhamels remarks *before he apologized) 2 of our monks left cause they couldnt take your crap. Thx for screwing up our 1 night a week in a plane for your oooh soo uber mission.

Khelder -=Affliction=-

kalten
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Grats on killing Innoruk guys. Job well done.

I hope you know our night was nearly ruined. 2 of our monks left and koryo (kzzern) was nice enough to come help us. Thx a ton kzz. w/out you our night was over. Santhini is new to hateplane and there is no way she can pull solo.

Jubei, they didnt PnP us. Khel talked to members of SF and informed them of our plans friday night. We got there at the exact same time basically. Nope, no PnP involved. I'd like to say though they made the PnP rules because of guilds like storms fury who need to be in planes more than others in order to accomplish their uber mission over our mortal farming mission.

Vexthorn. Bah khel will get his own. Could really care less. All I know is when we get loot we cant use, someone is immediatly called to come get it. Thats our point of view though. Cant blame ya for having yours. When rogue arms dropped Maeghant and Shadowe were given tells to get to hateplane. They arrived at same time. Shadowe won. Lookin good shadowe.

I'd also like to state for the record one of your members (Yadan is his name I think) went ld and couldnt log back on. After the ooc attacks on us, the vexthorn rotting, we offered to help. He came back after SF left the zone and had no idea where his body was. Khelder took around 30 min to look around the zone. At this point we were just getting ready to leave. After searching for 30 min and having no luck, we left. That kinda shows you a bit of khels character.

Wanting the best for your guild and taking challenges is not greed. Absolutly not. Getting those items at the expense of others is my friend.

All and all, great job khelder. You didnt get upset and kept things as civilized as possible up there. You have a great rep on the server and when people have a conflict with you, its discussed in a civil manner. Recently due to overcrowding we had problems with DG and Sharasali. We learned to work together and have respect for them. We talked it out like adults and both parties benefited I think. I would say your the only person/guild khelder has a problem with on the entire server. To me, that says a lot.

If we want to play the bully people around game then thats fine. I think everyone sacrificing a little would benefit people more. This is only my point of view.

Chukzombi 
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ok narrowed down to 2 people.
Burro or Destian was it either of you that did not want Kheld to loot Vexthorne?
are either of you so jealous of Kheld that youd pull a fucking childish prank like that.
really you guys are only hurting yourselves in the future.
ill let yas in on a secret, one of storms furys members /ted me about this whole incident and hes mad as hell this happened so perhaps you may be looking for some new members soon too.
haha, damn destian since when do you decide who earned what?
i supsect you guys would never have gotten to Inno let alone kill him if Affliction hadnt been there killing roamers. so are ya still thinking they didnt earn it?


Eurmuthur 
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(4/23/00 10:01:47 am)
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*looks around*

*golf clap to Kheld*

Eurmuthur Edgecrusher Affliction

Zenarchy 
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Here is my 2cp,

Very nice nite killing Innoruuk. Had fun.

There was one problem with our puller being fucked up and yelling ooc. Unacceptable. Sorry.

There is a post by Jubei that has made me put MS on my hate list. Sorry.

There is a post by another ass-hole that has made me hate Affliction. Sorry.

I LOVE YOU KZZERN! Can you get me a shiny sword?! ;)
Sorry.

I have a rogue BP, a Pali sword, a rogue dagger, bard arms and gloves, and a GB in my bank. Sorry.

Now, all BS aside:
I personally would not run into a plane to loot gear. Just me I guess, but I like earning my things. It gives me something to do. I would have liked to have a rogue get the god-weapon. We did not have one help kill Inny, so no rogue got it, damn.
If SF is assembled from guild rejects then I must say that I am proud to be associated with these rejects. We have killed lots and scored much. Discusting to be the target of such flaming, but it happens. The United States was founded buy fuukin rejects BTW. HAHA

Now whatever bad I said, please flame away... it shows how much better then me you are.

Hate is Good... But Inny is Dead!
Z'

Zenarchy Whacka 50 Warrior Servant of Innoruuk In service of Storms Fury

Saaril
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Farming and stuff
I just want to put this up because I think people don't really understand why we went up to kill Inny this last week. I missed friday's actual slaying, but I was there on Wednesday clearing the path to inny. I pulled from about 11am pst til round 4am when we were just too tired to make a 5th attempt on inny. That's a long long time in PoH and I totally understand if people think that we're up there getting mad loot, but the whole time we were up there we got 1 jacinith, 1 diamond, 3 bard arms and a set of rogue gloves (which didn't rot btw). That's it, that was our mad haul from 17hours in hate. Divine Grace came up at one point and after some initial tension they just hung out in their corner and did their thing. At one point I pulled the Maestro solo back to our FD spot and drall said "Let somebody else kill him, we're just here for Inny." I know Drall is a kind of abrasive guy, but leaving a once a week spawn up that we could have taken at least makes him not a total prick).

It's hard when this game focusus so highly on the "uber-loot" priciple (heck I did my time to get my RotLC and Treant Fists) to see why a group of folks would want to do something just for the fun of it and to bask in a little bit of vanity after the deed (heck Beowulf got a whole epic poem written about him and he just ripped Grendel's arm off). I haven't known Drall very long, but I do know that he put this post up because he did something that made him happy and I don't really see why folks are trying to take that away from him. I mean it can't have been that long ago that you didn't have a guild you were lvl 18 and you were killin orcs in HHP with a bunch of strangers having the time of your life (heck hhp is still some of my best eq memories, I didn't know about spawn times or rare loot, I just ran around and whacked stuff). Anyways that's all I gotta say.


medstar31
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Again wew are beating a dead horse with all the flames. First off I'd like to know who Affliction spoke with about being in Hate that night. To my knowledage no one except LoV has even made an attempt to tell us they would be going to a plane this weekend, and they posted it on our boards.We did not intintuly try to horde in on someones raid this is childish and yes greedy. We have had PnP pulled on us by another guild and It sux.

As far as the Vex rotting well the first reaction to it droppimg was get Kal up here now! He was in Lguk and had a port almost immeditly, unfortuitly he did not make it. If our rouge would not have been on Im sure Khel would have been offered the oppertunity to come up and loot it.

As to our mission being more important then theres well to us maybe it was. We had worked very hard all week getting the tactics down and our ppl ready.To others this is greed because we were in Hate for 3 days, if this is how you feel then so be it. However I dont see it that way. we have been on loot runs there before and done rather well, but in comparison to those runs the last 3 days in Hate paled. Lets see we had 8 drops in 3 days that we were so called farming. Compared to 16 drops in 1 day when we didnt try to move toward Inno. You do the math.

As to not being able to get to Inno withut Affliction killing the roamers, Hmmmmm I belive we would have made it to him sooner rather then later due to the cross pulling that was happening.Chuck I dont know why you would say that we couldnt get to him without Affliction there but your very mistaken.

Ppl will call us greedy, disrespectful, and whatever else they can think of. Thats there right and even if they know better its going to happen. We cant change that and I for one am not going to try anymore.Ppl flame because there mad or they think they deserve somthing they didnt get but when all is said and done there will be another flame next weekend about how MS did this or how TTS did that. Its all pointless. You cant call planes you cant call Hate you cant call Fear you cant call Sky, if you could there would have never been a need for someone to think up PnP rules now would there. PnP rules were put in the game to give all a chance at a zone but they have been twisted to cause strife between ppl and I guess even though it wasnt used this weekend it has caused said strife. You dont see us flaming on boards that XXXXXX guild pulled PnP on us this week do you? No you dont. Why because we lived with it. Yes ppl were mad, yes ppl wanted to retaliate in /ooc and /shout. Did we no. Why because we are better then that.

AS to all who think us greedy farming direspectful whatever, fine your right. I wont lose sleep over it.And to those who have said congrats we thx you all for your kind words and we apreciate your support.

Zalig Ironstar
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Eurmuthur 
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Reasons I am mad:

1) SF ported up AFTER Affliction, plain and simple.

2) You spent 3 nights in Hate this week already, yet you still had rights to come up and flame us and call us farmers.

3) You asked us to camp out during your fight w/Inno to cut down on lag. Are you fucking kidding me? You expect us to give you any respect after you butt in on our raid, hog the zone, and disrespect us?

4) As for your 8 drops in 3 days compared to 16 in 1 day, that is irrelevant. You were still in Hate 3 days, what you chose to do w/your time up there is your own business. The point is you show a little goddamn courtesy and you give others a shot at the zone.

Eurmuthur Edgecrusher Affliction

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That being said...


Man I just have one thing to say about this entire situation. Hate can be done with two groups on either side. Fear can't so long as Cazic is in the zone. And even if you take away cazic you shouldn't share it because it will be a fight over who pulls what.

In the plane of hate it is a little bit easier. In the case of Innoruk it should of been handled a little better. I am not sure on the relationship of the two guilds that were there but I do know this, if at any point the other guild made it easier for the guild to kill innoruk by any means, whether it was clearing the area or helping with a cr. The other guild should of had the right to help or been in on the loot. In this situation the vexthorne. That is the best rogue weapon in the game and it decayed because of greed.

Rayn

Destian Holyknight 
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Ok, ive only read up to chuks latest post, and i have to go out in 5 minutes, so ill catch up on the rest later. I have things to say to khelder also that i will get to.

For now, though, i have something for good old (i make assumptions on fucking everything) chuki. What the FUCK are you talking about? You have no idea. Do not question my character. Its just rediculous to put my rep in question because you need to make an assumption concerning something you are not the LEAST bit involved in.

FACT 1: I WAS NOT THERE WHEN THE WEAPON DROPPED.

FACT 2: I WENT TO BED AFTER WE GOT TRAINED AND DID NOT RETURN TILL THE NEXT DAY.

FACT 3: YOU ARE AN ASS AND NEED TO KEEP YOUR OPINIONS TO YOURSELF.

To all those with the least bit of integrity, intelligence, etc. please excuse my language. I just really dont like people like this.

Edited by Destian Holyknight  at: 4/23/00 11:33:33 am

HakNukum 
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Khel,

>>"when was anyone in SF called over to loot something in the affliction camp? "
This never happen..someone misinterpretted this during the thread. They meant to say we called someone outside of guild to come get loot.

Sorry this was my mistake. Somehow I thought Shadowe was in SF when she came in. I realize now we must have called her into the zone. Sorry for the confusion.

But still, regardless of flames and being pissy, to let God loot rot when there is someone in zone that can use it (even on the other team), is just wrong. And I bet the guild chat was something along the lines of "Should we let Khelder loot it? Nah...screw those guys."

Yes you were trying to pull up your own person, but you should have had Khelder there so he could loot at the last second. For shame guys.

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Gojo 
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Nice job killing Inno, maybe now you guys can do it in one hate run instead of being there 4 days straight. As far as DG "enforcing PnP" it's kinda hard not too when you're there 24/7. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was SF who actually used that PnP on DG first, what goes around comes around, or as they say "Treat others as you would have them treat yourself".

Drall next time you're guild does something great, why post this type of bragging, I-got-the-biggest-balls post and avoid some of these flames. Instead of calling people who want to equally have a chance at poh to themselves farmers, maybe you should thank them for letting you try Inno 4, 5 times to get it right first. It would go a long way to show just a little bit of class.

Oh and Malbian, please man. Thats the most hypocritical post I've seen in ages.

Boldaar Battleblade
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P.s.

Boldaar's Official Dictionary of EQ

farming
(far'~ming)
1. Staying in one spawn area or plane for extended periods of time and multiples respawns while disallowing or impeding others of staying in the same spawn area or plane.
2. Entering a plane with specific intent of taking advantage of another persons break where they could not have done so normally.

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Nobody helped us with a single thing to kill inno, when we got wiped on the first attempt and 15 or so bodies were lost in the zone due to gflux, I was ressed and came back to 4 or 5 affliction laughing there asses off at us and mocking us etc via ooc, then I lost my temper and and flamed back. Vexthorn is a moot pt , our god our choice, I can imagine someone calling me to loot a crimson robe of alendine, NOT.
As kalten said, neither guild was SETUP, we both ported at the same time, hence there was no crashing of someone's raid. Neither guild was anywere close to each other, neither guild helped each other at ALL all night, Neither guild used pnp, neither guild has a right to the zone just because they planned something. As for all the affliction member's who were so damaged by us somehow, well I offer my apologies, the ranting via ooc wasn't right and everything was fine until about 4 or 5 am, I got ressed and came back to flaming etc etc so I shot back, Only thing I have to say is dg pulled blatant pnp rules on sf last week and I don't see one gripe' one post' one flame by sf on them.

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Kaden Shadowbane 
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Just wanted to congratulate Storms Fury on their killing of Innoruk. Its a pity that this acheivement has been marred by flames. But then who am I to judge, having not been party to the relevant crimes, trash talk etc etc....

Btw Crimson Robe of Alendine is not no drop so I guess you are right Drall

Kaden Shadowbane
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Edited by Kaden Shadowbane  at: 4/23/00 12:44:09 pm

Chukzombi 
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Destian, a few things
i got my info from both Storms fury members and Affliction members before i ever even knew this thread existed didnt get all the details on who killed what to get to what but i apolgize for saying you couldnt have gotten to Inno if Aff wasnt there killing roamers. checked with a few more people in game got a conflicting story so i renege on that part.
please reread your own posts . there was no way in hell you could have gotten someone to Lguk ported him to POH and had him get to Inno to loot in 8 minutes, especially with the aforementioned Uber lag.
i see this as plain spite. you see Affliction as interlopers and "farmers" on your raid but then ya say you arrived at the same time.
so whats the deal with that?
im not questioning your rep or putting you down im just curious why you would support not allowing Kheld to loot the rapier becuase he was not "earning" it
this is my last post on this thread

Malby
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um boldaar no offense but ah get a clue. I joined SF when it was newly forming, i was probably around the 15 person to join. The big reason I joined is because it is an ACTIVE and ORGANIZED guild, unlike what you have done to insurrection. Man I miss Morlox, when he left, all that was good about insurr did too.

I don't expect much from your leadership, after all, you are the one who'd constantly group the late people on raids by themselves or make them go on the raid solo, rather than reworking the groups. What genius!

Yet another person who i thought was my friend, but will poke at me when opportunity arises. Man I really feel bad for DICK now, I see what they went thru.

Elwyn 
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/me looks at Blessed
/me looks at Malbian
/me chuckles

Celdor 
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SPOON!

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Nobody flames Boldaar...

He's a great guy. He gave me his mith pants when he got TV pants. Period. And no we weren't RL frens or really close
frens.

Ken

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Hey boldaar,,,



KAL VAS FLAM!!!!

=D


HakNukum 
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INteresting comments from Drall - Telling
I liked these 2 bits from Drall.

>>Vexthorn is a moot pt , our god our choice, I can imagine someone calling me to loot a crimson robe of alendine, NOT.

You are correct of course. I'm just glad that you publically stated above that you are willing to let God loot rot out ot spite or petty problems with a guild. Fine by me, but people need to know this.

>>neither guild has a right to the zone just because they planned something.

Hmmm..this is pretty weak. So you are saying that you don't really respect future plans or trying to book a plane? Something else people should know I think. I 'm fairly sure you guys knew we were planning to do Hate Friday night.

In a crowded server like this I kinda thought it was an unspoken rule to try to schedule around others? (shrug)

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MeconanSmash
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Inno was made significanly easier in the patch about 10days ago drall, but hes still no cakewalk and a definate acomplishment(we took him down like a young kodiak after that patch da' ice that is). Besides that all i have to say is, CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG! hehehe

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P.S. a hearty congratulations on the slaying on Inno SF members

Tashin Toadfoot 
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I have my opinions on this matter, but I aint gonna say em.

Just one thing I thought I'd respond to is destian saying Dragons are easier than Gods...

Well lately we've done quite a few dragons, MS that is, and today we killed CT. I was extremely dissapointed at how easy Thule was compared to nagafen. He dropped like a fly. Now inoruuk may be a little different because you cant Lev to resist his grav fluxes, but with how easy CT was, I cant see how this detail could change the stride of the battle completely.

I'm not trying to take anything away from you guys, good work on inno. Clearing to him musta been a bitch.


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Foreward.
These are the personal opinions of Sharasali Shadowsoul and are subject to flames as much as the next poor schmuch. Please ignore any rambling that may occur throughout this post.

Congrats on killing Innoruuk SF. I dont actually have much respect for the guild as a whole, but Im glad you took him down.

And to address a few points raised.

"Recently due to overcrowding we had problems with DG and Sharasali."

Affliction started flaming me after your guild decided to stay the full pop and when we got given the ok by the guide to go in, Kalten. Bah. Oh well. No hard feelings from me there. It was a shame it happened, but at least it turned out ok (except for me wandering the zone and almost getting myself killed when i realised the Frightfinger house hadnt been pulled yet, Chain casting sucks bad :) ). Just wanted to clear that up. Besides, we had fun taking down the Dracoliche (guess who took the initial DT ;) ).

"Fear can't so long as Cazic is in the zone."
Hey, thats the point i made to Setis. -looks around for Setis-

"And even if you take away cazic you shouldn't share it because it will be a fight over who pulls what."
North and South seems to work. North gets Phobos and the temple and fetid house. South gets Frightfingers, all the roamers, scareling tower, gorgons and boogeys. Seems to be a fair split if you think about it.

"Drall next time you're guild does something great, why post this type of bragging, I-got-the-biggest-balls post and avoid some of these flames."
Midnight Sojourn did it first. (go back a few pages, Vox thread made by Thadew). I dont see anything wrong with posting that your guild just killed a god. Im sure if your guild did it for the first time, you'd want to tell everyone.

And guys, just Shut the Hell up about farmers. Everyone is a farmer, no matter what you say, everyone is a farmer. Just as long as your not greedy about it, and arent doing it for Ebay, does it really matter? (unless your hoarding a plane).

/em notices that Da`Ice are the ones doing the least flaming in this post.
/em cheers Da`Ice as a whole for the first time.

/em notices that Haknukum is the Vendrix of Affliction
/em notices that Kalten is the Guildon of Affliction
(those last two comments arent flames, just general observations of characters)

sharasali {EZ}
"My Life, Mistress Ezra's Way"


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1) Boldaar, didn't know we had a problem and thought we were friends. I hadn't read this thread since yesterday, but i now understand why you blew me off when i tried to have a conversation with you. Sorry bout whatever, i like ya.

2) Chuk, Every night we went for inno we cleared to him and around him. Nobody being in the zone changed that. Us against him. and we finally got him.

Everything else is just a bunch of shit talking and if your going to take it personally, thats just too bad. Whoever said everyone is farmers is damn right. Some people just feel the need to cry about it when they get called one.

Have fun people.. i know i am =)

I think someone called me an arrogant asshole(or something along those lines) You are so very right.. You should meet me in RL it's part of my charm. NOW GET OVER HERE AND GIMME A BIG WET KISS


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Onimaru
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Well to start with grats on the inno killing.

Was reading post and noticed people questioning on rhamels pulling ability, well I can provide one case to indicate his ability.

When we did efreeti run with 8 people 2 months ago rham was the only puller. He has pulled mostly single all the way and within the time limit for the repop of imps, no train and we got to lord within time. I wouldn't think any monk can do so without skill, thing like this is hard to accomplish w/o skill.

I would say he is good puller, he has the 4 characteristics of monks kzzern mentioned. Though in this particular case he may have lost some of those 4 characteristic as he lost his temper (think it was on 3rd page by rham). It also probably hard to pull across zone when there are 2 groups.

Just bit of support for rham.

Onimaru Stonepolisher
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ps:lov planning on hate wendnesday...will i be seeing insidious after 65hr plus?

Aatelin Doomshadow 
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OMG you guys are tearing me up....Jubei 1. they were HAPPY about killin Inno you jealous? 2. you wanna talk about RESPECT hjere's one for ya stop lyin behind ppl's back and TRYIN to make the lose thier friends! 3. i see NO affliction complaining about "Sharing" hate why should it bother you? 4. even IF blessed is a golddigga was that got to do with killin inno again??

/em Scratches his head

as for hating MS because you are ignorant well hell i ain;t gonna lie there are those in thier i rather see rot in hell more then anything and yet i will keep it to myself. as for the rest i have nothing against but jubei don;t call SF farmers or trash

/looks at jubei and notices nearly FULL indo Hrmm

who is to blame here well on how seein as affliction didn;t mind and SF was just killin a god i see no reason your egotistcal arse should have even STARTED flaming....i know you are gonna ask *In a whiny crybaby jubei voice* then why are you posting....Simple really i hate you heh ever since u started lies about me to make ME seem like the bad guy rather MS to MY friends *Nothing against MS* just bugs me when i see ppl do a GOOD deed by killin a god and some asshole tried to ruin everything *Points at jubei* seriously

/wants everyone to know this is not reallyt between guilds just singling out jubei

your a dick when it ALL boils down to it you USED to be kewl and WHY trillium even BOTHERS havin YOUR sorry ass in MS is beyond me i think it is a TRADEGY they have to put up with you for 95% of them are GOOD ppl, i don;t really care what you have to say to me so any responce will be ignored UNLESS there is actual brainpower behind it working

/serious doubhts he has that capability..

as for everyone else i will apologize for this GREAT Job on killin Inno SF! you did great no matter WHAT a certain asshole has to say *Points at jubei again*

and kzzern.....though we had our battles and you really don;t give a shit by your posts i have gained more respect for you

and as far as Da`ice goes GOD just leave them alone sheesh heheh


/EM makes a rude jesture at jubei but realizes he missed it coz he head was TOOOO far up his arse to get it

/em hugs everyone else

/em waves

Gratz again SF! AND affliction *Shrugs* didn;t wanna make u guys feel bad *Pinches thier cheeks* aww der cute hehe

Aatelin Doomshadow Death is certain, Life is not

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"And even if you take away cazic you shouldn't share it because it will be a fight over who pulls what." North and South seems to work. North gets Phobos and the temple and fetid house. South gets Frightfingers, all the roamers, scareling tower, gorgons and boogeys. Seems to be a fair split if you think about it.

Mm, I thought about it. I disagree with it.

Splitting a plane is bogus without some massive assumptions. Assume, "north" has no druids... or assume that the druids present all said, "Naw, I don't feel like any Vermiculated today." Assume, "south" has no one present with armor in Hate... or assume they all said, "I like to fight in Fear to help my friends get gear, I also like to ignore that 1% chance off a phobo."

I know some people would say they will fight anything without any benefit to themselves. But y'know, I like to fight in Fear for my guild, I also like those random shots at gems, I also like those delicious phobos towards the end. Is the existence of a phobo necessary to draw me to Fear? No, not at all, but if you *take* those phobos away from me, remove something that makes me happy when it is there, I will not be pleased.

If south was able to concretely say that they would have no opportunity whatsoever to pull the mobs that north was going to (assuming that south broke the zone first, had made proper arrangements, gentleman agreements, and so on), I could envision such a strategy proving viable. But I'm sure south will have some unhappy paladins, north some unhappy necros. It's not cool and it's not fair.

I experience this class armor pain rather vividly in Hate. It's not the puller's fault, it's not the zone's fault, it's not a strategic fault... the pressure most painfully arises with the threat of another squad coming in. Debate the other reasons as much as you like, but the bottom line is that it is the 'other' squad threat that causes the bad things to arise.

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Thalanthas Brightspire
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ROTFLMAO

I just have to say that this thread is one of the funniest I've read in a long long time. It amazes me how rude people can be to one another, but then again, I find it entertaining. I think Kzzern deserves a round of applause for being the voice of reason in this thread. Then again, I don't think I laughed at your posts Kzz...I guess you were respectful...hmm. I'm torn, do I want entertainment or do I want respectful posts? Let me get back to you on that one.



Now for a few things I think I think:

I think any thread that has 90+ flames in it and none of them are directed at Da`Ice is a good thing =O

I think I found nothing funnier in this thread than Drall, on several occasions, saying that DG pulled out the play nice policy last week, then going on to say that not one post had been made by a SF member about it.
Hell, I'm laughing pretty hard at that as I type this, too funny.

I think that Divine Grace is pretty weak for pulling out the play nice policy. They've done so on several occasions now...pretty sad.

I think that it's April 24th and my damn RoK CD STILL isn't here.

I think that it takes some 4 minutes to download each page because it seems that every peep who posts here has to create a bigger and better sig than the next guy =P

and finally,

I think that I spend WAY too much time playing, thinking about, and posting about this god forsaken game.


Thalanthas Brightspire
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Aatelin Doomshadow 
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thal is my bitch my love slave so to speak :P so nothing said about him or i'll i'll /pet attack......illegal target master DAMN IT i guess i ain;t doing anything *Pouts*

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Cannibaal
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I'm bored....Servers down AGAIN...suprise suprise !

So here goes :

1). I had heard nothing to the tone of Afflicition were doing PoH until I arrived at s.ro tele when servers came up

2). I was one of the first at s.ro tele, and agreement was arranged in open say between Khal and Drall BEFORE anyone ported !.

3). I don't know where this we didn't train as we were sat down came from, but at the time Fionord and myself died, we woz bound at s.ro tele. whilst waiting fer a res, there were 2 affliction waitin fer resses, discussing a runaway spite. These things happen,live and learn. Who cares I died no biggie.

4). There was a load of spamming when we got jumped on approach to inno, mainly handbags at 40 paces. Mainly i believe due to tired heads. Again I died.. no biggie live and learn

5). We opened a can of whoop ass on Inno !

6). We tried to get rogue up to loot weapon. ...Failed...Rotted. No talk of stuff Khal at all !

7). I believe there is no real guild issues here, a lot of shite is being flung about, but is mainly due to personal differences.

8) . And finally !

As far as jubei is concerned you have gone down in my eyes as froglak slime that I wipe off my boots. Learn your facts, keep your personal vendettas to yourself, and get a fookin life !.

Peace to y'all

Canni

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G'damn! 96 posts and I didnt even join in. Come on, quick.. someone say something inflamatory about me or my friends. Tag me in!!!

/em tries to recall what the original topic of the thread was...

Oh, grats on Inno!

Vendrix
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Ablazen Holysword 
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vendrix has a small penis..just look at his picture =)

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Thought I'd make this 100 responses.

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As far as everyone who say's ino is easy, All I have to say is bring lot's of coffin's when half your crew is flung on the other fukin side of floor two and can't get back.

Clearing to him is unholy hell, gflux is unreally devastating if you don't use the right tactic, he make's ct look like a beatch, have fun when you fight him, and fyi he's up.

Also a few other thing's
I had the zone repopped after the patch as we got settled and there was some sound effects' rain' and almost like a play going on when the gm repopped the zone for us in hate.

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Tristra
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First, congrats on the slaying. Just one comment Drall. If your people are being flung anywhere but up against a wall, you're fighting Inny in the wrong place or facing the (obviously) wrong direction. Fight 'im with your back to a wall.

Cheers =)

TC

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Ok Vendrix..... hrmm
Ohh yhea...

VENDRIX AND TUAN SITTING IN A TREE K-I-S-S-I-N-G...First comes loves then come marraige then comes
a short and stout DE with a beard and horns in a baby caraige!

/em is scared of the DE/Dorf Combo

Tag your it =)

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Zuan da Gnome I am I am
Zuan da Gnome I am

Destian Holyknight 
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Im done flaming now unless someone (like chuck) insults me personally again. Oh, and by the way chuck, did you even read my post? Anyway, about fighting inno with your back to the wall. He runs away, you need to pin him in the corner, unless im mistaken somehow. Please let me know if i am.

Vendrix
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Now that I think about it, there isnt much of anything someone could say to me on this board to infuriate me more than I already am. I STILL dont have my god damn RoK CD, but I got a nifty little email on Friday saying...

blah blah blah... sorry, but do to problems we are unable to process your order. Please call EQ tech support to resolve this issue.

Well, as most of us know. Friday was a F'n holliday and NO ONE was working at Tech Support. So basically it took them 1 1/2 weeks to realize they fucked me then they were smart[note high level of sarcasm] enough to send me notification on a day that I couldnt do a damn thing about it. Today, Monday, the line for tech support has been constantly busy since they opened at 11:30am EST.

I cant win. Im just gonna go buy it at EB tomorrow, F VERANT!

Vendrix
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Walterscott
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I GOT MY CD AT HOME TODAY!

Came home for lunch installed it. Yippee...

Can't connect to download server though... :( (

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/e tries to figure out why Floxx got her shipping email notice a week before Droxx, but still hasen't seen her CD when Droxx got his on Friday.

/e agrees with Vendrix

/e thinks that there has been 100 times more shite thrown on this thread than was actually exchanged by SF/Affliction in Hate.

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You suck because your in storms fury!
BTW! Happy B-Day )
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It's actually kinda funny, there is a lot more hatred being flung around here by uninvolved parties than by the people who were actually there. From the perspective of an uninformed foot soldier who WAS there:

1. Khelder always tries to communicate with the other guild leaders when planning a raid. I think it was widely acknowledged that Hate would be Affliction's Friday night.

2. We couldn't do Inno, but SF could. Khelder and Drall came to an agreement that SF would beeline to Inno, and we would clear everything else. Several Affliction were disappointed by this, but we lived with it.

3. Things went more or less peacefully in Hate. When an extra pair of rogue sleeves dropped, Shadowe and Maeghant were called to loot them. Most of us (including me) thought they were part of the SF crew, and didn't realize they'd been called from outside Hate.

4. Our monks had to log, and while we waited for Koryo to show up, we sat around for a half hour or so. That's when Rhamel suddenly accused us of training in /ooc. We were all tired, tempers flared and some flames were traded. Hak started singing.

5. Khelder told us to shut up and let them do their thing. Presumably Drall told his people something similar. Things quieted down a bit, and Koryo started pulling for us. (Much praise for all the monks who were there pulling for us. Awesome work guys.)

6. Drall shouted the most cuss words that could possibly ever be uttered in a single sentence at Innoruuk, which I think was his equivalent to "Charge!" :) Inno died in zero time. I was astonished how quickly they took him down. My hats off to SF, they did an amazing job.

7. Inno dropped a rogue item, Khelder was the only rogue in the zone. Because many of us incorrectly thought that Shadowe was part of the SF crew and we'd given her sleeves earlier, we felt it mighty unfair that they not hand the weapon to Khelder. Since it turns out our assumption was incorrect, there are no hard feelings. It was SF's loot item, it was their's to do with as they pleased.

8. Congratulations were passed back and forth between both guilds, and SF left. They honored our agreement throughout the entire raid.

I really don't think there are any hard feelings between the guilds over this event. The inflammatory posts on this thread have blown things far out of proportion. Everybody should calm down and get on with life. As many have stated, things are crowded, people are fighting over dwindling resources (an interesting parallel to the real world) so tempers flare sometimes. Let's just try to get along as best we can, and I'll see you all in the game.

Endrick O'Brell
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Thalanthas Brightspire
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Alright Endrick, just what do you think you're doing? You're ruining a perfectly good flame thread that I found quite entertaining. Please stop your reasonable posts immediately. We are not here to solve problems, so please stop trying. Come on Endrick, throw a flame at someone (not me of course).

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there is no spoon.

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To anyone who feels the need to be flamed:

Your mother was a hamster and your father smelled of elderberries.

To everyone else: My first plane raid!! *cheer* *hug* *swoon*

Shazanti Zavortix
~Affliction~
46+, I give up on keeping this current...

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Maeghant, you are mostly correct about North and South split. It is making the split a little icky in places. But if you have any spent any time pulling, you'd know what is seen in north and south.

North contains:-
Fetid house
Fetids (i forgot the first part :( )
Scarelings
Shiverbacks
Spinechillers
Amy warriors
Amy knights
Glare lords
Nightmares
Phoboplasams (sp) and as to note on the Vermiculated armor, on the afore mentioned raid which Affliction and i clashed on, a Phoboplasm dropped Rune Etched boots and Vermiculated vambraces ON THE SAME MOB.
And in addition the temple, which contains random mobs.

South contains:-
Frightfinger house
Boogey house
Gorgon area
Scareling tower
6 Amy Knights
Fright
Dread
Terror
Additional roamers of:-
Spinechillers
Scarelings
Shiverbacks
Amy warriors
Amy knights
Boogeymen
Gorgons
Glare lords
Worry Wraiths
Thought Bleeders
Fetids
Samhedian (sp)

Its a little uneven, but its mostly a fair split. And if your groups are on good terms, they might let both groups in on the random -shrugs- It would matter on the individual group.

Ahhh well.
Have fun all.

/em snarls at Verant for her RoK CD, which she ordered on the 12th, got the email on the 13th.

sharasali {EZ}
"My Life, Mistress Ezra's Way"


NicolasKaeje
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Endrick, LOOOOOVVVEEED your post. I agree with you on everything bro.

On the Gflux, someone said face your back to a wall. Let me tell ya if you do that with Innoruuk you are dead dead dead. From my personal experience that is the most wicked Gflux I've experienced, it threw me anywhere from straight up in the air, to a home run hit a few houses away. This is the big reason Inno is such a biiiach. Damn it sucks, we agroed him once by accident and he fluxed the crap outta us, and it took a damn long time to recover. But we prevailed!

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HOLY SHIT!!! now that is a bod!! you must share with me the secret to your awsome abs!! and i thought all DE were little sticks!..... seriously, that is the best damn skin i have ever seen=).

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/em takes his hat off to Endrick.

Sorry to deflate the combative Springeresque feel of this thread but that man has got it right on the money. (2 snaps and a circle)

Bevo - EverHeretic Extraordinaire :evil
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Thadew Faedorn 
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(4/25/00 1:05:57 am)
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Re: STORM'S FURY HAS SLAIN INNORUK TONIGHT
Greetings,

I am not here to join the discussion on the subject and have no intentions on starting a new flame but my name was mentioned in a post...

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"...why post this type of bragging, I-got-the-biggest-balls post and avoid some of these flames."
Midnight Sojourn did it first. (go back a few pages, Vox thread made by Thadew)."

Please read the post:

pub4.ezboard.com/femarrdr...=218.topic

Let me know why this is a "I-got-the-biggest-balls post" - I hate those posts and can hopefully prevent making another if I ever post something again so enlighten me please...

Thadew Faedorn
-MS-

Gojo 
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(4/25/00 2:07:08 am)
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Thadew,

I never meant to imply you or your thread, I was just commenting on how these types of threads usually seem to generate alot of flames and if they weren't here maybe less slanderous and often unfounded remarks would come out of them.

To answer your question is difficult, it's nice to get news from different guilds on what they're doing but so often people look for any excuse to jump on an enemy that you gotta ask yourself if it's worth it to post a guild accomplishment (Kinda sad in a way). Your post compares to Drall's and falls under the same category in my opinion but with much less attitude. So if you want to avoid making a post look like a shameless brag, my suggestion? Don't post at all.

P.s. not a flame or a shot at you Thadew or your thread, just giving my honest opinion as you requested =). I can always check your website if I want to know what you fella's have been up to, same with da`kor, SF, etc.

Boldaar Battleblade

Thadew Faedorn 
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(4/25/00 2:19:33 am)
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Thanks for replying Boldaar,

<------ Won´t bother posting any achievements on this board anymore if the generel feeling categorizes my post as "bragging"...

Have fun.

Thadew Faedorn
-MS-

Elwyn 
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(4/25/00 7:12:51 am)
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Quote:
On the Gflux, someone said face your back to a wall. Let me tell ya if you do that with Innoruuk you are dead dead dead.


*boggle*

Virral Lootaholic 
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(4/25/00 7:31:46 am)
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Ive got nothing against guilds giving themselves a pat on the back after major achievements... I like to hear about what is happening in the world beyound my ken of it.

That being said, i really think Drall put alot of... attitude was a good word... into this post. Gotta be honest, "WANG" sure as hell doesnt mean the same thing for me that it does for drall... heh reminds me of waynes worlds "SCHWING!"

Thadew just wanted (in my eye) to say that it had been done, and thank everyone who helped make it possible. Drall seemed to want everyone to be really impressed by what they did as a guild.

It is an impressive achievement, and i am impressed (would be better if i didnt know how many times you actually attempted it first tho, that ruins it abit).

My hat is off to Storms Fury, and i think these kind of posts are spot on for this forum. Everyone sees the Rants and Flames, never the Dragons and Planes section of its title heh.

I in no way approve of Jubei's post. We have established he wasnt there, we have reports much different from his by people who WERE there. This thread was not the place for that post IMHO, and seems designed to lessen what Storms Fury did over a purely personal problem he has with Drall and afew others.

*sighs* i tried really hard to be non inflamitory, and i dont think i was... but i get a feeling im gonna get a flaming for this post anyway...

Well, thanks for your time, try to be cool, after all... its just a game guys! Some take it far too seriously IMHO

Virral Lootaholic, 50th Magi of United Independent. "Dont hate me because im beautiful!"

NicolasKaeje
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(4/25/00 8:56:45 am)
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Didn't say why, can't be giving all our little secrets away. =)

Rayn the Halfling 
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(4/25/00 8:57:32 am)
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lol elwyn

AAER 
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(4/25/00 11:45:49 am)
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hey can you see my signature?

Faroe
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(4/25/00 1:56:08 pm)
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Wang
Anyone see the movie Hollywood Knights? I think that's the one, anyway. There is a party scene where someone remarks the punch has a little 'wang' to it.

Aston Barr
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(4/25/00 3:32:11 pm)
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*agrees with Elwyn*

oh yeah and people seem to dislike Jubei's post......why? he later apologized and said it was just aimed at drall and not all of storms fury. it was funny...anything that flames drall is funny.

gerome still wins the prize for drall flames though

/em reads Jubei's post again and laughs.

-Aston


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