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| Vendrix Global user (4/3/00 4:55:22 am) Reply  |
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Bet you thought I was gonna post some piece of Uber Loot we acquired this weekend. Nah. Just wanted to inform you all that the PnP was invoked for the first time in POF Saturday night. [Sun Apr 02 00:45:16 2000] Willowbay shouts,' I just talked to a guide we have every right to be there and we can go in if they do not share he will go in and speak with them' Anyway, just thought you guys that take a little longer to do POF should be aware... If the GIMPS want the zone, they are gonna come in. Flame away Pharmers! Vendrix |
| Ogmuk Administrator (4/3/00 5:01:09 am) Reply |
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LOL! Eek.. another HOT thread. Just wanted to add, before the flames start, that guides also disagree with the "share plane rule". Since most of the guides also have a high level character on another server and know how 'it' works. They clear the plane and others farm it a week long preventing the original breakers to have a chance to get anything again from their work. Yes... guides too. Anyways, if you get bad mouthed by a guide "SHARE PLANE OR DIE!", it's probably a "gimp" on another server. Just my, worthless, opinion. ;)
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Desirae
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Vendrix, Willowbay has gathered a group of people that are not in elite guilds and that do not have the numbers to take a plane within their own guild. They wish to enjoy the upper side of Norrath and perhaps they do not know the proper way to obtain a fair shot at them. I think it would really be great of you to help her with information and contacts so she can organize and as the associated guilds progress they too will have a better understanding. I'm certain she would appreciate your expertise. Afterall, it was guilds like yours that have set the standards that are used today. Just my humble opinion, Desirae |
Drall
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Pathetic TTS/SF broke pof thursday night full pop hardcore and painfully but we finally broke it at around 1 am friday morn, we cleared all the roamers and made it about halfway to ct, the plan was to all zone in at some point fri and do our first attempt at ct, a skelly crew was left behind to keep the roamers clear, well people logged out expecting to come back and take on the zone in a big way, well as always the servers dropped, pof got repopped and and people logged into a bloodbath. We pulled out, daice went in next day cleared it gangsta style and the scumbags followed, they actually were waiting outside pof for daice to leave. SCUM!!! And for all the people who call me a sell out because I have a little honor you can kiss my sea bass because this shit is just down right PATHETIC. Bleed a little losers then maybe you will deserve something, die 20 30 40 times breaking the zone then maybe you will deserve it instead of leaching. Lmao now I hear another guild camped clerics in nw corner and plans on logging in after patch tonight and 'TAKING' the zone. Why the hell cant you get the ballz to break it yourself? Cant wait until poh is patched, you might actually have to show skill to break it.Lol a list for pof farming and invoking pvp rules and then flamning the guilds that broke it so you can farm , PATHETIC. Flame on Drall Daboff |
| DowdMuk
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There were some 30+ people gathering outside the portal PURELY because they knew we were in there. Nobody said they didn't have right to be in there but they only showed up because they knew they could farm our re-pops. Pretty fuckin sad. I'm not saying that these 30 people couldn't pull off a break-in, but they lack the balls to try.
Dowd Muk |
| Chukzombi
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guys think its fun now. wait til the summer when the lv 50 kiddies (druids) get out of school. they will be too chickenshit to try kunark so planes will be da place Chukzombi Astrocreep |
| Gerome Global user (4/3/00 7:36:17 am) Reply  |
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Post-Da`Ice Fear Cleansing, aka Fear Farm, Day 3 (40th contiguous hour). So there I am on Sunday, outside the portal to Fear, whacking Cyndrella so I can max 50 again while watching a DVD between spawns (Prophecy 3, for the interested, which was a lot more "out there" than the first two.). After being spectre trained several times by people apparently on the "list" to farm fear, a shaman stops to query me. Umdar says, 'Is this the portal to Fear?' Sad, sad, sad. Then I get at least two people asking to share spawns of Cyndrella while they wait for their number to be called. "Fuck off," I reply in disgust. Now that they have apparently addressed Hate's major problems, I will be emailing [email protected] and [email protected] daily to address this Fear respawn farming bullshit. I hope some of you out there will do the same.
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Maeghant
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Ahhh, Kunark... /e clears mind of bad thoughts, 'gangsta' words, and evil deeds... Thank god for Sneak Hide and Jboots. Maeghant Tuskbone (The Pre-Raphaelite Shaolin)
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| Debar
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/e pets his dead dog
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| Desirae
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You know some of these attitudes really sadden me. I was not part of Willowbay's group but I was still on the mailing list and last week, the group was attempting to organize for a Friday break-in. What some of you do not consider is while you all were already doing these things, most of us were not. I have been playing almost a year now but there is still so much I don't know. You shouldn't knock people down for this. Everyone plays in their own way and at their own pace and there is really no reason to be judged by that. They just wanted to break a plane, what is wrong with that?? They were not able to get into the planes most of the weekend after several days attempt, the planes were occupied. I am not saying that busting in on another group is the right thing to do. As I said earlier, why not help her find out who to contact to see if planes will be taken and so forth. Why not help with a solution instead of just complaining and acting as though no one else has any rights to enjoy these features of the game. The way I understand it, the big fuss is really about loot and earning it. As far as earning it, this group would love the adventure, blood, sweat and tears of breaking a plane, that is real the real fun lies. Personally, I don't know much about items, even for my class. I have spent more time in hate plane where there is no loot for druids than in fear but I play for the adventure and the social environment. Just because some people are focussed on being decked to the hilt doesn't mean everyone is. So give Willowbay bashing a rest, I know her very well, and she is not a greedy person by any stretch of the imagination. She would give the tunic off her back for someone in need and that is more than I can say for many individuals in Norrath. In my opinion, flaming is not going to solve anything and this is a brave group that is going to succeed eventually with or without your help and there will probably be more groups to follow. Desirae |
| Vendrix Global user (4/3/00 8:08:30 am) Reply |
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Type up a letter Gerome, Ill copy it and send it as well. Make sure to inquire about using the bell and 3 hourglasses as potential respawn triggers. That would probably be the best solution being that it wouldnt require a GM to be there, thus saving them time. Shit, have it cost a 500plat reagent to respawn the zone. Ill pay that in a second to stop the pharming. Dont forget to mention how the current state of the zone hardly fits the "vision" anymore. Its no longer a zone where you "DIE HARD!", as Brad put it in a patch message, its a place where you "FARM HARD" after the real danger is long gone. EDIT: Reply to Desirae. They weren't there to break a plane, they were there to farm single MOB respawns for hours on end. Don't give me the, "she's innocent because she doesn't know who to talk to" line either. I'm NOT Anon, she could of sent me a tell ASKING IF we were leaving but she didn't. The only tells I got basically said, "I hope you guys are done soon, because we've been sitting out here for too long now. We are coming in whether you like it or not"(see the red text above illustrating that she planned to use the PnP), and they did. While we still had about 20+ people in the zone, they started coming in, rakes in hand. At some point they decided manifest destiny was how they were going to view the POF. It was there, they wanted it, so they were going to take it. They were banking on US to hold to our "1 spawn and out" policy when in fact THEY adhere to no such rule. We started killing MOBs at about 5pm EST. We left at roughly 3AM EST, 10 hours in and out. At 7pm EST I did a /who and found that many of the people that kicked us out after 10 hours were still there 16 hours later. Vendrix Edited by Vendrix at:
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Xavieran
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"They just wanted to break a plane, what is wrong with that??" Um, no guess again. They were gathering outside the portal while we were still in there clearing out the last of the zone, lists and shovels in hand. They had -0- intention of breaking the plane. Would they have gathered there if they had? They knew the zone was empty, they knew that we were leaving. And Gerome if what you said about the shaman asking you if that was the portal, well that just sums up *exactly* what is wrong with this picture...
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| Kzzern
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Ok here's an analogy to help you all understand each other... So the other day, I do a / all 50 to see if anyone is camping Cattie... I see nobody there, so I get supplied, I buff myself fully, put all my gear on, and I head over there. I reach Cattie and see that she is at full pop, and nobody camping her. So I begin to work it. She's really tough and mean and nasty, but after 3 or 4 brutal bloody deaths, I finally break her in and start to collect the loot! But as I'm finishing up, Xav sends me a tell "hey d00d, I see you're campin K4tty, play nice, share. And when you gonna be done?" I get pretty pissed! I mean, I died so many times just so this guy can have a free ride? F dat! I try to get Cattie repoped, but to no avail, so I leave. Like two days later, I come back, and Xav is still at it! I mean, wtf?? That's just not cool. All that work for nothing. F*ck you Xav, f*ck you. kzz
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| Genji
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What's REALLY pathetic is, EVERY SINGLE ONE of you that is posting flames on this forum right now have "farm" Plane of fear before. If you didn't "farm" another's guild break in, you have "farm" from your own break in. Some of you might say "Yes, we have farm PoF in the past, but that was a long time ago, and this is now." Well that is just complete Bullshit. If you have farm planes in the past then your are what you call other "FARMERS!" Here's a little PoF history to remind how hypercritical Everyone is. Lets start with the: "Make a Post on E-marr board and schedule your PoF raids" This all started when Da`ice and another guild (i think it was LoV and some others, i could be wrong) went to PoF at the same time. Well, ofcourse PoF could only fit Da`ice's ego they force the other guild out by saying something like "We schedule for a PoF raid today, if you want to raid PoF, schedule it on the board." Well ofcouse we all know what happen when the first person schedule a PoF raid. All hell broke lose. The same guild that said "post it on the board" is the same guild that said "WE WILL NOT, HONOR ANY SCHEDULE PLAN RAIDS!" What Happen after this was "Fist come first server" OK, first come first serve. If no ones in the POF, then it's up for grabs for anyone. Da`ice broke PoF on a weekday (i think it was tuesday and Wednesday) Thursday morning, NO ONE WAS IN POF, Trillium organize a party to go into PoF (I was there also), hey first come first serve and NO ONE WAS THERE, Trillium had all rights to take PoF since no one was there. OK, we fought in PoF for 8-10 hrs. Then one by one they appear and the shouts began. "Get the F*** out of here" there were far worst ones then that. What Da`ice said was "We broke the zone, we could stay for al long as we want." (Ummm, itsn't that what we are calling "farming right now?" Well at the end we pack out stuff and ported out and Da`ice was left alone to continue "farming". OK, now "first come first serve" is out the window. So it's now "Whoever breaks the zone could stay for as long as they want." Well just look at whats happening now. The same guild that said or you could say dictated all these rules: schedule your plan trip, first come first server, if you break the zone you could stay for as long as you want, is the SAME guild that is now calling Everyone "Farmers" if they stay for more then one cycle (14hrs in PoF time, since after the first mob dies, it will repop in another 14hrs) What it all boils down to is Someone with LOTS of plan experience losing alot of experience in the planes and might not have a single piece of plane armor, and then some John Dough that never seen the plane in there life goes in and gets a Plane Breastplate or Robe, and you can't take the fact that he/she has it so you call them "Farmers, or as some rude DICK people say it Gimps." Life is Ironic and a bitch... Katz StormSeeker (Not puting my Guild's name cause this is my own opinion)
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| Cattie
Luv Global user (4/3/00 8:27:59 am) Reply  |
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Omg Kzzern, you *ss!. your going to become a eunuck the next time i see you... And Xav? omg thats terrifying!
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| Drall
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They knew damn well what they were doing, willow whatever her name is sends me a tell thurs saying were going in after pof is cleared by some guild this weekend, want on the list? Actually wasnt me but a sf member who promptly reamed her out but point is they know damn well what there doing. Drall Daboff |
| Desirae
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Vendrix you know Norrath inside and out and all I am basically suggesting here is that you take Willowbay under your wing and share some of your wisdom. Oh and if you wouldn't mind helping me with a working graphic for my global profile I would be much appreciative. 
Desirae |
| Padangg
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Hey katz... think Trillium would of gone there if i didnt mention to him i was in fear 8 hours before he went in? NO. Thats about the same thing with these people last night except they were there before we even left.
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| DowdMuk
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Kats: Any WHY was the other group there when we logged back on? Because they had the chance to log on and farm OUR re-pops. Our intention was to log into a fully spawned zone. What it REALLY boils down to is the fact that people would rather farm repops from guilds/groups that shed blood breaking a plane, rather than make an attempt of their own. And if you tried and failed.. what did you learn? Are you going to try again? Did you see pics of our failed raids? Put a crew together, zone into a full spawn and get gear. Then MAYBE you'll get it. ('it' being the point we're trying to make) Until then, grab a pitchfork and stick a piece of straw in your mouth..
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| Vendrix Global user (4/3/00 8:39:58 am) Reply |
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Actually Katz, or great uniformed one as I should say, we werent farming repops when we were there all week if you think about it...now were we? We would breakin, kill some MOBs for 5-6 hours and then leave. Miraculously when we came back the next day, they would all be respawned. I guess that had to do with it being 18 hours later, but I could be wrong. So lets think back to that day that you all, Trillium included(sorry to bring in your name, since we've worked a lot of things out recently, but need you to prove a point) came in after we left. YOU were the ones jumping on a free breakin and YOU were the ones there to farm a respawn. It was the same then as it is now, farming a repop is L-A-M-E. I cant remember the last time anyone in Da`Ice stayed up to farm a plane for more than 14 hours. We would break it, kill as much as we could, go to sleep and then break it again the next day. We NEVER had anyone hand us an empty zone to farm(at least not when I was with). Anytime we had a multi-day camp, the third day was like the first. Breakin and kill stuff, no exceptions. When was the last time we stayed for more than one spawn in POF? We had no intention of staying for more than one this weekend either, we simply told the GIMPS that to buy us time with our petition for a repop. Dont ever underestimate my morals, Ill meet you anytime in the arena and bury you =) Vendrix |
| Tristra
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Desirae, I will try to clarify what some others have already said. First off, I'm not sure exactly when people started showing up outside the portal, but I do know it was in the afternoon, because I didnt show up myself until after noon, and this was well after Da`kor and Ice Clan had already cleared a good part of the zone. These people showed up SPECIFICALLY to farm our repops. They knew we were there and may not have otherwise even done fear this weekend. If they had wanted to 'break in' as you say, they could have done it any time friday night or earlier on Saturday. But NO, they heard that fear was being done and showed up to farm when we were done. Personally, I dont even believe they would have done fear this weekend. Why you ask? If they'd really wanted to break in fear, they would have arrived a little earlier than ~3pm on a Saturday afternoon. A smooth, well done fear raid can take 14 hours. Please try and understand how this makes the people who worked damn hard clearing the zone feel. How would you feel, if say, there was a full spawn in lower guk (lmao), and your group worked damn hard clearing all the way to the frenzied room while another group, that may or may not be able to get there on their own, just walked down behind you? /em grumbles Now I dont mean to sound rude or come across as a bitch, but I am upset by this. I think it is pathetic the way these loot farm mongers conduct themselves. /bitch off Tristra Crystalwind
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Memn  Global user (4/3/00 8:51:33 am) Reply  |
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Lol Genji, You guys only went in because you knew we had broke it. You pharmed for a good 8-10 hours until we had our crew ready.. If you guys didn't go in to farm from our hard work it would have been another break for us. I just find it pathetic that some rag-tag crew would leech off our hard work on a weekday (when no one was breaking planes on weekdays) and call of farmers because you messed up our spawn time. f u Sorry for sounding redundant.. 4 new posts appeared in the time it took me to write this up and make coffee 
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Ollathir  Local user (4/3/00 8:52:31 am) Reply |
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Ok, here's the deal. Willowbay was organizing a planes raid for people on a mailing list like Desirae said. She had been in contact with someone in Da'Ice and they told her what time they were leaving. Well we get there and most people are still in there petitioning to get a full repop, which I have no problem with whatsoever. I've helped to break the plane before, I'm ready to do it again. Well after waiting about 30 minutes for people to get out of the plane (CT had been killed about 20 minutes before I even got there), we decided to just go in, get to the ledge, camp go to chat. Well, we did that. We went to chat where we sat for an hour or more and had someone petitioning for a full repop. Well after some time, we decided fuck it, let's go in and see if we got it. Well, what we see when we log in are groups from Tarsis Shriners and Storm's Fury in the plane. One reason why there wasn't repop (HELLO, GENIUSES...they wont' repop a plane with people in it). Well I was talking to someone in SF and he said they had an agreement to come take over the plane when Da'Ice left. Well, they were not told of our intentions and we were not told of theirs, even though we had talked to someine in Da'Ice about what we were planning. Well, you COULD say that since they did the original break-in, they were coming back to farm some more (that's what it is, you were trying to come back in to a clean zone and get some more stuff, trying to deny anyone else a chance), but, this would mean that Da'Ice didn't break it in and they did the same thing we did, the came into a zone that TS and SF already cleared most of. Not saying this is what actually happened, just speculating. Now, you it could have also happened like this, TS and SF left the zone and Da'Ice sat outside waiting for repop. This would mean that they broke the zone again and that the groups from TS and SF (that Da'Ice told to go in the btw) were doing the EXACT SAME THING that we were accused of doing. Yes it is the exact same thing. If the plane had to be rebroken, then it doesn't matter if you did it the day before or the month before, ya'll came in after DI left and waited for repop. So, SOMEONE had to be farming (if you want to call it that, I call it camping since you have to kill the same mobs that you do on the break in) in there. I mean, like I said, I've broken POF before, so I could use the same excuse Drall is using, I've broken it, I have the right to be there. In my opinion, there are enough people to keep the plane tied up all weekend, so anyone that takes more than one spawn cycle in a weekend is just being greedy...give someone else a shot why don't ya?? Oh, and also in my opinion, the same guild killing the same dragon twice in one day (servers kept going down), is farming. When I see TWO Heirophant's Crooks being auctioned off in one week, something is wrong. I mean, dragons are on, what an 8 day spawn? Why do you have to kill the same dragon twice in one day? That's farming and I'm betting that ALOT of people agree with that. Just because you powerlevel yourself to 50 first and are the first to do anything, doesn't make you better than anyone else. There are those of us that like to play this game to have fun, not just level the fastest or get all the nicest stuff. Oh, and Drall, Willowbay just meant that we wanted the plane when whoever was in there was leaving. Nobody was PLANNING on going in there to a clear zone and sitting around and waiting. She was just being nice and seeing if you wanted to join us. Carathos Ollathir |
| Kaden
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So many flames, not many brains.. 
Sorry for sounding like an asshole.....but there were so many other assholes posting I just COULDN"T be left out! Kaden Shadowbane Edited by Kaden
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| Tristra
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Carathos- Da`kor and Ice Clan killed every_last_mob on their own, from a full pop.
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Setis
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Quite frankly, the dragon thing is NOT farming. The crooks were being auctioned because guess what....ALL OUR DRUIDS HAVE ONE! We had a period there where he was dropping 2 crooks per slaying of him so we got way more than we needed. Would you rather we just destroy them? Now why do we keep killing him? Not everyone has a Cloak of Flames/Runed Bolster Belt, Dragonscale (white or red), Mystical Eyepatch, etc, etc. Why is this you say? DRAGON LOOTS ARE RANDOM, HELLO?!? Now if you want to slay a dragon, get your crew together, and be ready when a server goes down (since I haven't seen a dragon actually "spawn" in over a month at least). We sure as hell don't take both dragons at once, so there will be one open if you get organized and move on it. And if you're there with a reasonable group (not 3 people trying to hold the area until more log on), we won't interfere. Setis Dagre |
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Oggie, why don't you just make 1 big forum "whining and bitching"..and move everything from all the other forums there. i think i see more posts on raids in bazaar than i do here 
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| Carathos
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God you people post fast..had about 5 replies posted after I started posting my first one. Just want to reclarify myself. NO ONE WAS THERE TO SPECIFICALLY FARM ANYONE'S REPOPS! We were there to do the plane, had NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER with breaking the plane. I was prepared to die numerous times as I have before. But of course, most people just ASSume and well, if we dont' live up to their elitest standards, we are pieces of shit. What a load of crap. Another thing....as to why you saw people in there 16 hours later...that's 16 hours after you left. You said yourself it only took you 10 hours to clear, so that leaves 4 hours to repop still. We got the first pop at 5:30 am that morning and most of us left when it repopped that afternoon. The ones that stayed are people that were brought in for the ones that couldn't stay for the whole spawn period. No one that went in originally was left at repop! Yes, it took us longer to clear the plane, but alot of these people had never done it before so were weren't as efficient as those who have done POF a bunch of times. Vendrix, Willowbay may not have been in touch with YOU PERSONALLY, but she was talking to someone in there. Not her fault that someone didn't inform the rest of you. Also, Katz is right. Who the hell among you is without sin, cast the first stone. Nobody that's posted here is squeaky clean. Even if we HAD been there to INTENTIONALLY farm your repops, there are not alot of people that havent' done something similar. You are the pot calling the kettle black. And one last thing. I pay the same amount of money that everyone else pays and I'd like to offer a little advice: MY YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND DON'T WORRY ABOUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE DOING! Nuff said. Carathos Ollathir |
| Tsun
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is Setis the Ice spokesperson now? booo! /em throws rotten tomatoes and stale corn flakes
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| Xavieran
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Kaden who?
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| Kzzern
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Man, it was great, United Independent, teamed up with the Lone Rangers and the Gaseous Solids killed Nagafen the other day, and I moved in on his spawn point, and when he repoped - holy wow he was so easy. I pharmured his ass and got a Heirophant's Crook. Post your offer on the trade bazaar. Cheers, kzz
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| Setis
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Servers are down, not much else to do at the moment 
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| DowdMuk
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Yea farming a dragon.. that makes sense. Get a grip. And how do you powerlevel yourself to 50? I kinda wanna say "STFU" but I'm a nice guy. Let me clarify that neither Da`Kor nor Ice Clan made arrangements with ANYONE about 'taking over' the zone after we left. It's easy for someone to say that to 'claim' rights to the chickens and pigs.
Dowd Muk |
| Padangg
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carathos: That second naggy was a CR since over half our force went LD and servers came down. I was still in Nags lair alive as well as others. I didnt feel like dying so i used a friends account went up with others killed off naggy so we could log on and port out. Usually a CR involves killing the thing that killed you, thats what we did. And unlike others when we go in after say SF/TS we wait till its a full repop as in the next day, it was about 16 hours after they left that we went in. Yeah and if we are gonna tell people that we are done and leaving hell ya we're telling people that appreciate the efforts of a breakin and have done it themselves. So your saying your upset cause we will tell people that would normally work for it then people that bottomfeed?. BTW i have a crook too nice on my druid twink i never play.
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| Setis
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Quote: Not the Ice spokesman, just a member. But I liked 'em so much, I bought the company. Setis Dagre |
| Thadew
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Sheesh, The flaming here is meaningless...let´s just make it a habit petitioning for a repop as soon as the servers get back up after any patch. If you´ve cleared PoF then head to the opposite side of the zone (or whatever) and have a few ppl stay until the roamers near the portal repops (since Verant ain´t gonna do it) and head out. Regarding the shit thrown at Trilliums (I know it wasexcused his name was mentioned) raid(s) - he/we can damn well break Fear (no funny comments about the failed break where he/we used the now well known "sweeping method" - I´ve heard some say it fucked the zone totally up but I´ve also heard Monks that are Fear veterans say the opposite so don´t comment this as everyone has heard it all. Anyone has failed breaking Fear before). If Trillium is organizing a Fear raid it isn´t because the zone is clear for farming but because he wants to raid Fear - broken or not. With the above solution this would hopefully lead to a break every time... Thadew Faedorn Midnight Sojourn
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| Tristra
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Carathos, if your guild had just killed Nagafen and the servers went down, do you mean to say that you all would just pack up and leave with the same force you just killed him with, while he's standing there looking at you? I find that hard to believe. And while we were killing nag those 2 times, did ANYbody from any other guilds bother to organize a raid on vox or even send a few people to permafrost? Nope. After the server went down, did anybody but us show up with a force in sol b? Nope. After the second Nags, we ported and ran all the way to permafrost, even had time to stop off at the bank to change resist gear before starting the IG's. Other guilds *knew* the servers were going down, why did they not do this before us? If anybody have even tried, they would have arrived in permafrost while we were still finishing Naggie. Don't blame us for 'farming' dragons because that is BS. Yours, TC
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| Clintan Unregistered User (4/3/00 9:35:17 am) Reply |
VENDRIX :(
pub4.ezboard.com/femarrdr...21&stop=40 VENDRIX You had 3 months notice this was going to happen. Why the bitterness and whining?????
LMAO Gerome ??? what happened to shutting up and playing
Clintan
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| Kaden
Shadowbane Global user (4/3/00 9:46:08 am) Reply |
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Posted something here ....deleted it as I realised I may have miscontrued what someone said. Kaden Shadowbane Edited by Kaden
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| Gerome Global user (4/3/00 9:49:26 am) Reply |
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Haha... I never said I'd "shut up and play", I just said I'd get off the soapbox. I've said how I feel, and described why I feel that way several times and in much detail. There's not much reason to repeat it, as people have continued to demonstrate their ignorance by reiterating that 40+ hours of farming is a perfectly dandy way to get gear. They will simply never understand why it's truly lame. It's like preaching the positives of racial unity to the KKK. They're too ignorant to understand it, and they don't want to anyway. All I was posting was a "funny thing happened to me yesterday" story. (That story is 100% true by the way, you can probably ask Umdar yourself.)
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Khelder
 Global user (4/3/00 9:58:06 am) Reply  |
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Ok, I havent even read any posts beyond dralls...drall's pisse sme off so much im replying before I read the rest...hoping that no one impersonated drall. Hey drall, fuck you. You call my guild mates, scums, losers, and pathetic? Unless I am seriously mis informed, let me set some facts straight. I logged on sunday, and asked whats up. They said about 10 of us went into fear after da`ice with some other ppl. I immediately said ok, what time did you go in, they said 3 am est. (I logged on about 2 pm the next day). I told them all to leave, then one member gave me a tell saying "We asked to repop the zone, but they would not do." I then said to the guild ok, everyone is to leave at 5pm est, 14 hours after we went in, because we will not be labeled farmers. Now guess what, I come to this board and everyone calls em farmers. Do you guys have a clue...do you think we plan our lives to break into fear once you leave so we can be pathetic scrubs? What the hell were thos ppl to do if they cant get a repop? Unless im seriously mistaken somewhere along the line about facts, then you and storms fury can kiss my ass. Khelder -=Affliction=- |
| Kalten Unregistered User (4/3/00 10:16:46 am) Reply |
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12 :30am est over guildsay "Da`ice leaving pof at 3am who wants to break the zone" Half the guild, "sorry thats way too late, i dont have the time to put in a full break in sorry" Other half guild,"Well well give it a shot" Next day I ask wow you guys broke pof. Answer is no, we PETITIONED for a respawn numerous times but people were in the zone. So dont say people didnt try to break the zone in its full force. I dont know about half the people there but my guild was under the impression of dealing with a FULL break. Please know the details before you flame everyone in fearplane. If given the choice to A)farm a zone which you were ready to BREAK and stayed up til 3am. B)Let other guilds move in on you and farm it. What do you do? As to staying more than 1 spawn, willowbay this is wrong. Cant do this. Dont know if you read the messageboard but I know the people in fear knew this was wrong and chose to ignore it. I know khelder gave numerous tells to the guild saying at first repop, you all gate out of there. Once he heard "fuck respawn", every member in fear gated out to do nothing for the rest of the night. Then rancom people got on the fear "list" which I thought we agreed to get rid of.. Some people were in fear for more than 1 spawn but every member of my guild (Affliction) was out of fear at the first repop. Just wanted to clear that up. As to dragons..Dont have any problem with Da`ice killing them. I did a /who all (various uber guild) and nobody was making a run at either dragon.
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| Droxx
Global user (4/3/00 10:19:48 am) Reply |
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I haven't seen anyone reply to this thread that was actually with Willowbay's group and participated in the Fear group that went in after Da'Kor, so I guess I'll step up to the plate. First, here's the way the events transpired as I saw them. Saturday afternoon Floxx and I were invited to go on a Fear raid by Willowbay, scheduled to begin around 3am EST. We told her that we thought we could make it and we would try to be there. We logged in at about 2:30 or so, to find that a lot of folks from Willowbay's group were already in Fear. We were told that Fear was currently empty, and we should run into Fear, camp at the safe ledge, and go to the chat room. We promptly did so. While in chat, Willowbay asked me if I would go over some of the general rules and tactics to be used in Fear. Most of the people in the group had little or no Fear experience, so I explained the basics while our puller logged back into Fear to petition for a repop. After my briefing we all logged back into Fear to wait for a response on the repop request from a GM. Shortly after we logged back into Fear another group came into Fear, mostly Tarsis Shriners but some others as well. I heard some from our group say that Da'Kor invited them to come to Fear with references that if we were going to farm Fear, others should have the opportunity as well. I can't validate that at all, as I didn't receive any tells from anyone outside of our group the entire time I was there. Many were unhappy about this, but I explained that everyone had as much right to be there as we did. At this point we still had not heard back form a GM, so our hopes of a repop were pretty much gone, as there was another group inside who seemed intent on staying and camping as mobs respawned. Our puller spent a little time talking with the Tarsis Shriner group, and we decided to divide up the spawns in some fashion or other. Then we all settled in to wait for the mobs to respawn. At about 5:30 am, the Tarsis Shriner group decided to leave, for reasons unknown to me. We still had no heard back form a GM at this point and no mobs had respawned. We decided to continue waiting, as it seemed we were not going to hear from a GM, and figured the mobs would start spawning soon. The first mob spawned about 15 minutes after the Tarsis Shriners had left. We spent the next 14 hours killing Fear mobs, replacing people as they left. Sometime around noon or so on Sunday Willowbay started a replacement list, as she was getting a lot of requests for people to come up and join. I also told everyone that we needed to leave when the respawn started, to give someone else a chance to come in and do Fear. Around 7:30 or so we saw a Shiverback pop. All of my friends promptly grouped up with their local portal caster and left. My understanding was that Willowbay was going to portal folks our as well, and make sure everyone got out safely. I can't verify that this happened, as I logged directly after the folks from my guild were out. Now, I'll address some of the points raised in this thread. It was never my intention to go into Fear and do it while it was clear. I intended to break into Fear and clear it out the fun way, as did Willowbay and everyone else that I know of. The circumstances above prevented that. We never heard from a GM, and another group came in that seemed intent on camping the respawns. From the other posts in this thread, it seems Da'Kor never had a response from their repop petition either. If our group moved into Fear while Da'Kor was still there, it was wrong and I apologize for it. I wasn't there when it happened, though I wish I had been. I can assure you that I would have urged the group to wait at the portal until you were finished. I also wish that Da'Kor or our group had been successful in getting a repop. No one had any intention of staying past the first respawn. When the next one started, we moved out. Well at least 10 (21 total in there at the time I believe) of us did, I can't verify that the other 11left, but everyone should have left and it was my understanding that was exactly what was going to happen. We had our chance, time to move on and let someone else take a shot. I don't deny that the group that went in last night may have made mistakes. Again I apologize for any transgressions. What Willowbay did was to try and get a group of people together and have some fun in Fear and I think she did a very commendable job. My hat is off to her, as it's not an easy thing to take a group of strangers and try to pull off a Fear raid the first time. I'm sure she will learn form the mistakes that she made the next time around. As for the quote Vendrix started this thread with... [Sun Apr 02 00:45:16 200 ![0]](Server First! - www_ezboard_com_files/alien.gif)
Willowbay shouts,' I just talked to a guide we have every right to be
there and we can go in if they do not share he will go in and speak with
them'... well I don't see what's so bad about it. I wasn't there, but by reading the quote I surmise that Willowbay had doubts about the policies in Fear, asked a guild for input, and then informed the rest of her group via shout. Maybe that's not what it's all about, but that's all you can read due to the lack of context. I understand Vendrix's frustration over the farming issues. The idea of a respawn trigger is a good one. Vendrix, I'm sorry it wasn't handled better last night. -Droxx Stargazer
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| Droxx
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LOL ok so a bajillion people replied to this while I was writing up my reply, a lot them were either there, or in constant conversation with those who were there. I'm starting to see a consensus about what happened. A group wanted to break and do Fear, that wasn't possible so they stayed and had some fun. Half left when the respawn started. Mistakes were made. Oh yeah, and as the almight and wise Ogmuk predicted, it's an all our flame war from both sides. This board makes for some entertaining reading on weekday afternoons. -Droxx Stargazer
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| Thalanthas
Brightspire Global user (4/4/00 8:42:50 am) Reply |
Oh the
Hypocricy!
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| Ablazen
Holysword Global user (4/3/00 10:35:16 am) Reply |
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Hehe....ok, althought I usually don't flame people outright, I can't help but laugh after i read some of Drall's posts: >TTS/SF broke pof thursday night full pop hardcore and painfully but we finally broke it at around 1 am friday morn Word up to your hommies in the west-side! >daice went in next day cleared it gangsta style Bitch (as he says to the scarling), don't come at me or I pop a cap in your ass. >And for all the people who call me a sell out You be selling out to the hommies in the east side.....respect to your brother and sisters....wazzzup! >because I have a little honor you can kiss my sea bass because this shit is just down right PATHETIC hehe...this ghetto slang you are using is quite pathetic as well =) >Bleed a little losers then maybe you will deserve something You call my mama a loser boy, no one talks about my mamma!! *pop pop pop* /em looks at drall's body on the sidewalk
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| Parnell
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So i was in line at burger king, and three nuns were ahead of me... 1 nun says to the other nun, how bout a cheeseburger, so i interrupt and i reccommend the double cheeseburger. I think you all see my point. Parnell Arbremain |
| Gerome Global user (4/3/00 11:06:39 am) Reply |
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In case you folks were wondering, that incredibly loud slapping you heard around the world this morning around 9:30am est was me reading Drall's post about TTS/SF and smacking my forehead. Given that, Ablazen's post gets the official Gerome Seal of Approval. Two middle fingers up, WAY UP! Hahahahaha... Thanks, Ablazen, owe ya one.
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| Burro
Bristlefoot Global user (4/3/00 11:07:35 am) Reply  |
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I just ate a burrito. Burro Bristlefoot |
| Kalten Unregistered User (4/3/00 11:07:58 am) Reply |
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OMG ablazen thats too funny. Maybe one day we can break fear gangsta style also so were cool 
Thal, sorry people didnt log on for the short gap of time to go to fearplane. Some of us cant play 24/7 Know the facts though WE ASKED FOR REPOP!!! But in your eyes of course it looks like oh, da`ice cleared fear for our gimpy selves so we can now move in for repop with no effort. Think that all you want. Only thing that matters to the people who were there is the truth. Umm, and if you cant understand that we werent trying to do it the hard way than oh well hope you can still sleep. Drall, thanks for coming out and calling people losers and whatnot when you dont know any of the facts. I know you know it all so how could you be wrong.. Im deeply sorry you couldnt get fear for your like 3rd time that week.
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| Bindress Unregistered User (4/3/00 11:08:44 am) Reply |
I'm glad I
have SOMEWHAT of a life!!!
OMG I b*tch when raid thingys go bad (mostly to my guildies or friends) but this is truely sad. Well, off to ensure my troops are ready to defend some of you...why? I don't know why. B Fantasy + Reality = Anarchy?
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| Laughing at Storm Fury Unregistered User (4/3/00 11:25:01 am) Reply |
Drall..
I find it rather ironic that Drall and his legion of trash talking bitches would make a comment about Willowbay invoking the play nice rules when they (SF) did that to DG/Ins in the PoH last week. Everyone know that can have seperate camps in any zone, but there is something knows as RESPECT, which Storm Fury needs to learn. You can talk about how badass you are all you want, but any lvl 50 out there knows what your guild is made of and who is in it. Why don't you do everyone a favor and go back to farming lower guk with the rest of your guild and take your arrogence with you. And on a side note, I would hate to see the day that Vendrix comes to a sudden stop, because Drall's nose would go right into Ven's ass. (Not a cap on Vendrix, but Drall's ass-kissing abilities of Dakor) =) Hahahahaha Drall, you are nothing but a whiney bitch. Now go back to your e-bay pages and go sell some yaks or something.
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| Chukzombi
Global user (4/3/00 11:32:59 am) Reply |
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I have SOMEWHAT of a life!!!
Gerome i dont rip into you . i love ya and im sure ya look sweet in that robe you lost the random for but got anyway Chukzombi Astrocreep |
| Desirae
Global user (4/3/00 11:45:12 am) Reply |
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It seems to me that very few really care about helping the situation at all or even trying to understand anyone other than themselves. Please take the following in consideration: 1. Believe it or not, not everyone knows about this message board or we would be on page 20 by now. 2. Not everyone is thinking, yay kewl loot, lets go, they are probably thinking, Great, I can finally go do something new and adventureous and not wait on a four hour waiting list for frenzy. 3. Alot of people are oblivious to the politics and the guild negotiations that take place. There are several high level guilds that communicate with each other about their planned activities and such but you have to realize you are still only a small percent of the entire server. 4. Not everyone knows exactly how the current set up on plane raids and time slots work. Also not everyone that is new to planes can just say hey lets go do fear without some kinda of planning. You probably haven't heard any replies from willow's group because they probably don't read these boards. I say if you have a problem with someone, then why not sit down and talk to them and discuss the issue rationally and opened minded to their interests and develop some type of solution to the problem instead of constantly fussing about it. What is the point in that? What does it really accomplish? Desirae advocate for world peace
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| ZooZooZuan
Global user (4/3/00 11:51:04 am) Reply |
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Drall..
Alright guys I have the solution to all of our problems... I say we all meet up in real life...Smoke a couple bongs together... then hit the bars.. you know get wasted hardcore... then run over to the strip clubs.. get a few lap dances (watch tuan cream him self at the sight of nakkid boobies) .. and then smoke some more.. then we will all be happy and get along. Im gonna do this this weekend like I do every weekend but you should all join me =) -Zuan 49 Wizard Midnight Sojourn Zuan the gnome I am I am p00p! GNOME POWER! BOOBIES RULE!
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| Trillium
Global user (4/3/00 12:07:33 pm) Reply |
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I have been on both side of this fence. been in many a break in, but i have also done repops.... but taking a zone over while the original breakers are still activly in the zone!?! sheeesh! ouchies! Dis one goes out to all ma' homies in MS! Keep kickin' it Gangsta style! and to all the fly bitches out there.... my Jimmy is ready ta FREAK ya'!!! //// Trillium "Phat jimmy" Gangsta! ////
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| Avii
Ravenwing Global user (4/3/00 12:08:47 pm) Reply  |
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Drall..
Maybe I got up on the wrong side of the bed, maybe someone pissed on my Pop Tart, but Mr. Anonymous' flame baiting really pissed me off. However much Drall the White Suburban Gangsta makes my teeth crawl when he posts, he at least had the balls to post his name. If you're too much of a gutless coward to identify your name or your guild (if relevant), then shut the hell up, because your opinion is as worthless as tits on a boar. The higher I get in levels, the more of the regular posters I actually meet. Regardless of whatever bullheaded, uncompromising bovine byproduct may be on this board, almost every one of these people is a talented, friendly player with enough balls, brains, and backbone to say what they think and stick by it. And you, Mr. Chickenshit, tainted a flame war that was better than daydreaming about Vendrix mudwrestling in that little red G-string. Avii Ravenwing The Tarsis Shriners
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| Heady Kiola Unregistered User (4/3/00 1:13:26 pm) Reply |
Arooo?
*because your opinion is as worthless as tits on a boar* /em scratches head /em looks around /em goes back to the porn site
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| HakNukum
Global user (4/3/00 1:39:05 pm) Reply |
Hmmm...
To comment or not to comment...hmmmm... Methinks some people here have serious "issues". Well, boo hoo, crybaby, piss and moan. So sorry you "l33t" fellas are having to deal with other people on your "turf". Gee maybe someday I can live up to the expectations of Vendrix and Drall. Um, on second thought I think I'd like better role models like Ogmuk, Ablazen, Trillium and others who may feel the same, but at least have earned the respect of the server and don't take every opportunity to SHOW THEIR ASSES on the message boards and beat down young up and comers. The rest of you are nothing but Trash-Talkin' Bullies that think they are better than the rest of the server, and are a little jealous that people are obtaining your sacred armor, and have nothing better to do than bitch to hear the sounds of their own voices. I realize that it's in an adolescent males nature to run around shooting off your mouth and getting mad at things. But get used to it fellas. There is nothing you can do, and I for one am HAPPY to cause you ulcers and ruin (apparantly) your whole day. To quote Dennis Miller "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong, but I'm probably not". -- |
| Carathos
Ollathir Local user (4/3/00 1:55:48 pm) Reply |
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Ok, seems some people took what I said the wrong way and some of the things that I said were incorrect. First, about the double dragon deal: I did not know that you were in the middle of CR and would of course have to kill Naggy again to finish. I apologize for that. It's just that I would love to do Naggy and am just now in a guild that is capable (well we are still working on getting everyone the right resistence gear but we have enough capable and excellent players) and right when the servers come up, you guys are doing Naggy. Actually, I was apart of a Vox raid over a week ago right when the servers went up. Not everyone was up to snuff on resists and most had never worked together in that type of situation and we failed. Still had a blast even though I died 6 times
. I just saw that one guild (ok 2 guilds) had done Naggy twice in one day
and with him being on an 8 day spawn rate, it just frustrated me that you
were able to do twice in one day what I have never been able to even
attempt.As for Da'Ice breaking fear: I never said that you didn't break the plane. I stated that as one of the only possible two options as to what happened saturday. I said it was either you went in right after SF and got their repops, or that SF went in after you and did the same thing everyone was accusing us of. So Drall, why the hell are you being so bitchy when your guild was doing the EXACT SAME THING?? Was quite how Droxx saw it. The shriners and SF didn't come in right after we got back from chat, they were already there and set up. So, how can you call us farmers and not your guild when they did the same thing we were doing? Who cares if the broke it the day before? Like I said, I've broken fear before so I guess that gives me the right to do so as well. Now, again, this was our intention. Go do a Fear raid. We wanted a full pop when we got there, we did not get it. We petitioned for a full repop, but did not get it. What are we supposed to do, just give up on doing fear at all? Sorry, I don't think so. We could have waited a couple of hours for everything to spawn but then we run the risk of losing the zone to another group of people. As for coming in when Da'Ice was still there, yes there were a couple of people in Fear when we zoned in. Didn't know they were there as most of Da'Kor was in Feerrott at the portal insulting us before I went in and I was in the first group to go in. Oh and btw, the list was for replacements for people that had to leave early, but I guess we shouldn't keep a list when enough people leave we should just all leave. Why the hell should we do that if we don't have to? Someone leave, call in a back up. I don't see a single thing with that. And I'll confirm one other thing: Willowbay did port people out when the repop started happening and stayed out herself. Obviously the people flaming her have never had the pleasure of meeting her. She is one of the sweetest people I have ever met on here and has given so much of herself and her time to helping her guild and other people that she hardly ever got time for herself. I'm sorry people just have to ASSume things about others, they just get more pleasure flaming away and dragging strangers names through the mud. Carathos Ollathir |
Raefin
 Global user (4/3/00 2:32:25 pm) Reply |
I think I
know why you didn't get a repop...
The only reason why I am saying this is because the guide was talking to me and not the rest of the people about the repop. I petitioned for a repop along with the rest of IceClan and Da`Kor. I get a response from a guide that the zone will not be repopped. I ask the guide why not if you don't mind me asking. His response was that they will not repop the zone just to prevent others from entering the zone they will only repop it for a group that is intending to fight in the zone when there are no mobs in it. Also he said he will not repop the zone if anyone is int he zone. This of course came after the fact that he said he was a guide and didn't have the power to repop the zone and I asked him if he could get one of the gms that was on duty to do it. If this helps to explain things a little better then good cause too much lack of information is what is causing a 58 post thread in one day. Raefin Iceclad (IceClan) |
| Guildon
Global user (4/3/00 2:53:00 pm) Reply |
Re: I think I
know why you didn't get a repop...
More posts! Ice Clan was there too:P Guildon Goldenheart 48 Season Erollsi Marr |
| Sharasali
Shadowsoul Global user (4/3/00 5:12:21 pm) Reply |
Re: I think I
know why you didn't get a repop...
As for getting repop. Some of us petitioned. We got no response, so i logged into chat and asked a GM there. (OMG THERE WAS A GM ON!!!!) I was told that there was a Nighttime gm going from server to server repopping zones. And that if he hadnt got to EM, he would get there soon. I then asked the GM if he could get in touch with the Nighttime GM. But he said it ws doubtful, but that he would try. Well guess he didnt before zone repopped. -sighs- Shame really, i was hoping to die at least 20 times on PoF
You can bitch, you can shout 'farmer'. But you all did it before us. You started the trend. Now you know the effects of your actions. Shara Crazy sk with obssessive tendencies. "They dont call me a Knight of Hate for nothing." PS. Who cares about farming?? Snow in April in England!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!
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| Tarsala
Global user (4/3/00 7:50:01 pm) Reply |
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I'm gonna add a slight comment here in an attempt to get to the heart of the matter. I can speak with authority since i was in there with Da`Ice since break in on sat. The point is whatever your plans are, no matter how long you had them for, its better to walk away and not be a farmer and retain some server respect than to go in anyways just for some items. I have been to the planes more times than i can count and swear my intestines are all over them still with ZERO planar items to show for it, yet i have always REFUSED to walk in after some other guild emptied it out in wishful hopes for valorium. Its just not worth it to me. Maybe i have some semblance of self respect. Show that type of attitude, work your ass off and earn the respect of your peers. It feels good. Who knows, maybe thats why I'm welcome on alot of events, its all about attitude and what you feel is the right thing to do. Somewhat idealistic to believe that everyone would feel the same way and do whatever it takes to maintain your reputation and respectability but fuck it, why shouldnt i hold everyone else to the high standards i hold myself to? and feel free to try and flame me, my rep is rock solid. cheers =) Emarrsoft - What do you want to farm today?
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| Droxx
Global user (4/3/00 8:39:59 pm) Reply |
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BUMP LOL!
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| Kalten Unregistered User (4/3/00 9:19:22 pm) Reply |
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"The point is whatever your plans are, no matter how long you had them for, its better to walk away and not be a farmer and retain some server respect than to go in anyways just for some items." Ok, thats not gonna happen. Dunno if your reading this but didnt this happen to synjyn last week? He asked for a repop and didnt get it. Then was flamed for farming. Sorry if we wait to do a repop and full break and cant get it, were going into fearplane. We tried. Wanna rant, rant at verant. Sorry, one day maybe we can live up to your standards tarsala. As for your rep being rock solid, I for one only really care what my friends think of me. Im a good person. I go out of my way to help others many times. I stay up til 6am with a midterm at 8 am to help in CR i wasnt even a part of. Tarsala, I know a ton of people who dont like you. I know a ton of people who dislike me. I have plenty of friends on this server. My rep is rock solid =) Dont even try to think we go for the easy way out. Maybe my rep and my guildmates may be 0 in your opinion but frankly, we dont care. We are true to ourselves and good people. We try to do the things the hard way if that isnt possible, were not going to throw our plans out. sorry.
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| Tarsala
Global user (4/3/00 10:31:56 pm) Reply |
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in response to kalten - thanks for proving how we cant stay on a subject. i didnt throw my comments at YOU or anyone in particular, just said what was on my mind from what i saw from being there. if they hit too close to home for your taste sorry bud. beats me. as for my standards, thats the point, they're mine. you dont have to like them nor adhere to them. as for people not liking me and my rep, big fuckin deal. not everyone is gonna like you, and i've always done my best to help ppls out much like i'm sure you have. my rep is solid in that while some ppl may not LIKE me, they cant talk shit about me as far as fucking people over or being a prick to ppl. each person on this server has a shit list and is on a few shit lists as well. but to each their own. my suggestion to you kalten is that you stay on topic and refrain from making personal attacks - especially since i have spoken to you maybe twice and that was after an auction or regarding a trade. i made my comments based on my own opinion and directed them at no person in specific, any reason why you decided to try and bash? not cool bud. but hey, free speech works both ways. cheers =)
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| Kalten Unregistered User (4/3/00 11:28:46 pm) Reply |
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Hey bud, did we ask you what you thought? No, bud. Did your post really have any relevance? No, bud. Does mine? bout as much as yours. Ok, bud. My guild was in fear. You seem to say people have less respect for "farming" fear. If you can say your opinion, I can say mine. "Im saying, we dont care. Your "respect" means nothing to us. Do we have a bad rep now in your opinion or da`ice opinion? Obviously, or you wouldnt had made the post. I feel my post is just as relevant as yours. You talk about your standards and your flawless rep and im tellin you mine. We dont care what you or your rep thinks. If a raid is supposed to happen and a Gm cant repop the zone, we will go in. If you cant deal with that bud, im sorry, bud. Im just saying what you just said tarsala. People dont like our rep, "big fucking deal." Umm if i say some guilds have elitist attitudes and farm dragons and a da`kor member spazes at me, im not gonna use the defense its not directed at you. sorry if it touches a soft spot. gimme a break. obviously you were directing it at someone.... Yeah it does touch a soft spot bud and im gonna comment on it. Btw dont write at the end of your post to flame if you dont want people to flame, bud. Why personal attack? Well maybe not on purpose you ragged on me and my guild. Only difference between me and you is I point fingers and dont add happy faces. You say people have less "rep" than you cause they "farm". Im telling you your not as flawless as you think. You dont care? Well we dont care. "The point is whatever your plans are, no matter how long you had them for, its better to walk away and not be a farmer and retain some server respect than to go in anyways just for some items." Most server respects me. Maybe some guilds dont. Cant please everyone. If I ask for a petition for respawn and dont get it, I pay $10 a month and am going to use it. Thats your opinion. I just posted mine in my post. "Maybe i have some semblance of self respect." So do I "and feel free to try and flame me, my rep is rock solid. cheers =) Emarrsoft - What do you want to farm today?" Umm why say this if you dont want some good ol flamage? Cheers bud =)
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| Drall
Global user (4/4/00 12:42:23 am) Reply |
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Yes I am a ebay farmer, I make a insane amount of cash off of it to the point that my entire family just moved into a smackin new mobile home. My guild is a bunch of elitest pigs who help themselves only and go out of there way to badger and destroy peoples lives. I kiss vens ass because he hands me such sweet rewards like umm umm umm oh ya thats right the one time he gave me a res. I am god I know all I see all and I am all worship me fool. I control pixels on my pc that are oh so important muhahahah. And as to kaltens mindless flames, did I say you? No I meant willowwhatever and her 40000 page long list made 2 weeks in advance for the express purpose of waiting to claim pof after it was cleared and not leave until 48 72 hrs later. I like almost everyone I know in Affl so I dont know what all the fuss is. Dunno why people just dont break it themselves thats all then I do believe people wouldnt have all the problem's, it's sorta like welfare, my tax dollar's going to feed a lazy bum who cannot work for himself and take care of it himself so he leaches off the hardwork of another. Yep i did it to that one weekend and man on one hand I had all of my friends saying fuk da`kor fuk ice clan this isnt there damn plane, and on the other I knew damn well we would not be there if it wasnt for them breaking the plane that time. So not that drall's opinion means shit because it doesnt, I am just 1 of god knows how many now on EM server and just a level 50 wizzie who want's to do something besides lguk. So what does it boil down to RESPECT and common decency of other people and RESPECT of guild's. I admire and yes RESPECT DA`KOR and ICE CLAN because they have the skill as a guild to beat dragos first, to beat gods first and still to this day the only ones to drop a god. If you do not think that deserves respect so be it we are all entitled to our opinion's. If you think I ass kiss well so be it. MS broke pof tonight full pop tonight , guess what I RESPECT that as well because at least they had the nuns to break it and not be person with a list of people to take over a plane. So say what you will, flame as you will but there is still the matter of respect. And oh as for that incident with dg/ins when they wanted to raid pof and we did on the same night and I didnt show up until after the fight was over who gets pof that night, well that person was ejected for that and other numerous offenses to the general public and for that I apologize for. Kunark is going to change much much more than alot of you probably realize, IE it will take multiple guilds of level 60s in the amounts of 50 to 70 players to drop new areas, so the bridges you burn now might come back to haunt you later,myself included. Ok flame on, and as for my prior post, I was so fuking drunk chasing down shots with debar, I dont even want to read it because im afraid of what I might have said
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| Kalten Unregistered User (4/4/00 4:21:06 am) Reply |
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You really should read your post drall to see why people such as me and khelder were so upset. You called the people in fear basically losers and less than you. correct? 10 members of my guild WERE there under the impression it was a full break. Arent you flaming everyone there? Im going to defend them. Sure they are nice people but are they losers and lower than yourself? We even pull everyone out after 1 spawn but is that good- well looks like people could care less. Or is willowbay(who I also know and is a wonderful girl) only subject to being a gimp? If you wanna talk about respect, drunk or not drunk your post was one of the most rude immature posts ive seen yet on these boards. But if your only implying that 1/2 of the people in fear are gimps and every member of my guild that was there is A-OK in your book then im terribly sorry. Didnt know we could selectivly flame. Not gonna post anymore on this thread. Nothing good gonna come out of this.
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Elwyn
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Planes are incredibly easy to break, as long as you have enough nuns. Tough bitches. Quote:
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| GimpsRule Unregistered User (4/4/00 6:59:09 am) Reply |
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Drall, that is just a bald faced lie for you to sit there and say this group organized just to farm after another guild.
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| Slashh Unregistered User (4/4/00 7:23:59 am) Reply |
Drall
Hmm...I remember Drall not so long ago, oranizing repops and staying 36+ hrs. I guess I cant see why Drall is bitching when he himself was a major farmer. Slashh Lvl 50 <Affliction>
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| Carathos
Ollathir Local user (4/4/00 12:19:17 pm) Reply |
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Drall, get a clue. You have no idea what WillowBAY was doing. Her intentions were to do a fear raid, break and all. The mailing list was one that put together plane capable people that were in guilds that couldn't do it for themselves. We did plan on a raid for friday a week ago. You know why? Because you can't wait to do it last minute or you will just get everyone killed. And yes, she did have a list of REPLACEMENTS for people who could not stay the entire time (ONE SPAWN). No one had any intention of staying 48-72 hours. Maybe you should actually read some of these posts so you could actually have a grasp of what was going on. If we can't get a repop why the hell should I go kill a bunch of greenies and do the same old boring shit I do every other night? We had people planning on doing this and even taking naps so they could stay up for the 14 hours. Why can't we go in and better familiarize ourselves with the zone? Point is, try to get some actual facts before you flame someone. You know, I had alot of respect for you when you helped me get my efreeti boots even though everyone in your guild that was there had already gotten them, but after reading you flames, I see you are the kind of person who doesn't care about facts, just likes to flame so you can feel that you are better than the rest of us. Carathos Ollathir Edited by Carathos
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| Ablazen
Holysword Global user (4/4/00 7:48:09 am) Reply |
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hehe...gimps rule =) nice name..
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| Mahtan
Honorshield Local user (4/4/00 7:53:03 am) Reply  |
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Heh...my best memory of Drall in that way is when he was organizing a breakin that went bad and left midbreak. Took a lot of deaths from us and the bunch of nice (well, helpful, at least, don't know if they'd like to be called nice ;-) Shriners to break it up. -- |
Winu  Global user (4/4/00 7:58:38 am) Reply |
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Nuns = Clerics? or Nuns = Halfelves? Looking at your picture Elwyn I couldn't help but notice you've got wings on the side of your head <g>. Look out! Its a flying Halfelf! Sorry thought this thread could use a little humor. -Winu D'ryden, master Lush. |
| Sharasali
Shadowsoul Global user (4/4/00 8:26:22 am) Reply |
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Snow melted when morning came. 
Shara Crazy sk with obssessive tendencies. "They dont call me a Knight of Hate for nothing."
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| Thalanthas
Brightspire Global user (4/4/00 8:49:35 am) Reply |
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Just a note to say that I deleted my previous post. It was very very mild compared to some of these posts but I just decided that I didn't want to contribute this this mud fest. Both sides have drawn their lines, and neither is going to move. They have two different ways of viewing things, and more than likely it's just a big misunderstanding. Thalanthas Brightspire
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| Coprophiliac Unregistered User (4/4/00 9:50:55 am) Reply |
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/em dreams of being shit upon by Willowbay.
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| Saraquael
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Hi, I went to the planes for the first time on very early Monday morning. I got invited by someone while running through feerrot. I was part of a repop group I guess. Anyways, I didn't get any loot, nor did I even care. I just wanted to see the fearplane. My question now. Are all the breaks done as a guild thing? Or have they ever been done by a group of smaller guilds and non-guilded people? Sylvan Guard Falorius lvl 11 Erudite Shadow Knight |
| Slashh Unregistered User (4/4/00 12:06:22 pm) Reply |
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Funny how times flys. I have been around a long time. I remember the early days, when Da'ice did pof. I was invited as replacements for people leaving the planes on a few occasions. I remember being told I could join in on the raid, but would not get loot because such and such person was here for 24hrs already and would get first crack on it. But you know what, I still went, why because it was new to me, it was different. No chanace at loot but so what. So whats the point here, 2 things 1) Da'ice holding the zone 24+ hrs would that be considered farming, taking more than one repop....hmmm 2) Lots of people go to pof just to see what its like. Best time to learn were the safe ledge is, the layout of the land, what types of mobes are there, what to fight first on a multiple mob pull is not when the zone is being broken but when the zone is empty and repoping. Call this lame, call it gimp, does not matter, but to me I call it smart. Everyone has there opinions, and one person sprouting off about anothers guild is not going to change those opinions. If you dont want people farming your hard work do as Jai said DON"T CLEAR POF. Enough said, for me this topic is closed, and will not respond to this garbage again. Slashh Lvl 50 Wiz Proud Officer of Affliction.
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| Carathos
Ollathir Local user (4/4/00 12:23:42 pm) Reply |
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Now that is just childish and disgusting. I was a little hot-headed when I wrote the previous post and I am sorry I put that line in there. Didn't think about some asshole using it in this way. I apologize to everyone that had to read this moron's sick brand of humor. Carathos Ollathir |
| Zhenny poo Unregistered User (4/4/00 1:55:18 pm) Reply |
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Clearing your own repop is not farming. In the golden olden days when there was only one crew that could do fear, there was nobody waiting in line to jump on when they were done. Thus nobody worried about farming much less complained about it. Farming = Jumping in on a plane that someone else has cleared with the clear intention of taking their respawns because you either lack people or nuns to break the zone. Nowadays, however, a new occurence has taken place. Many older and more established guilds have mde it practice to "get in and get out". They clear as much as they can in a given day and make their way to "greener pastures". However, a few groups of planar capable group make it practice to monopolize planes for days on end. This hasn't happened to the extent that it becomes a problem yet, but there are a finite set of resources for 50+ in this game. In time farming wont be an issue, but plane monopolies will. Lets face it, PnP is not for the planes. I imagine Kunark will eventually seperate these problems, but for now we all just need to chill and discuss this like rational people. I'm sure that many groups who are being flamed for farmers have indeed asked for repops. However, perhaps instead of rushing in at 3 am and pushing the guild ahead of you out of the zone, wait a litle while and give the zone some time to repop on its own. Or if that is outside the limits of mortal patience, wait until the morning when an EMarr gm is on. Admittedly, talking to a gm is more difficult than talking to the walls in east Freeport and expecting them to respond. Sometimes they do surprise you though. Zhen /me remembers the old days....*flashback* Zhenya tells Uini, "How's it going sis?" Uini tells Zhen, "Just pulling corpses out of Sol B. Why? Need anything?" Zhenya tells Uini, "Nope, just saying hi." /me cry
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| Cuchulain
Dawntreader Global user (4/4/00 3:40:40 pm) Reply  |
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Yes Saraquael smaller guilds do go up, not as often but they do go up. Congrats on getting up there
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| Laoke
Global user (4/4/00 3:49:58 pm) Reply |
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Nuns needed to break planes? I'm a female monk under vows of celibacy, poverty and charity, so please consider me for all your plane breaking needs! Of course, I'll need some parties that don't have clerics that go 'Ooooh, look at the pretty froggy! I wonder if it'll be my friend?' so that I can avoid dying a little more successfully to get to plane-worthiness stature... Laoke the Nun Shaper, Fist of the Five Winds Erollisi Marr
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