  |
| [ Erollisi Marr, The Queen of Love ] [ Rants and Flames ] |
 |
| Author | Comment | |
| Gilg Unregistered User (3/26/00 10:26:23 pm) Reply |
Yet another
item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Why is everyone so concerned by the fact that since you had to do it the hard way so should everyone else. I still fail to see why it should matter to you if the people who follow have an easier time at something. For example: Da`kor was the first guild to do PoF, with help from IC I'm sure. Because of this, they feel others who follow should have to deal with the same issues you did. This is of course your right and you can feel any way you want, but I don't understand it. If I'm camping king room in Lguk, or PoF, it doesn't matter to me, I usually think of what will happen to it when I leave. I'll /ooc broken king spawn if anyone wants to get in before repop. Or I'll ask the next group in if they would like a few helpers just to get a foothold for the next raid and I'll leave as soon as they wish(this has happened before where 4-5 people stay just to get the next group in a good situation then leave to go about their business). I don't see why you would go to the other extreme and try to force people to do it the hard way. Within a month or two EVERY high level group will be able to break into PoF on a regular basis with little trouble, so what is the point of making them do it again. Maybe you guys have always been the big boys but I remember being helped throgh highpass at level 7 to run to FP and buy my first mino axe, and I guess I remember appreciating the help and wanting to return the favor. I could be wrong and my thinking is way off the wall, but I just don't see the motivation behind it. Like someone said, if the people have been pampered when a really new experience(ie, Kunark) comes along they won't know what to do, so if they are smart they will do breakins, organization and so on just for the sake of practice or it will come back to haunt them. Just spouting out whats in my head before I go to sleep for the night. Seeya ingame.... Gilg
| |
Morzinynin
Ardaanien  Global user (3/26/00 10:54:15 pm) Reply  |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
well im sure at some point pof will become always broken, but until then we are attempting to avoid misunderstandings. and i would go out on a limb by saying most of us are getting BORED with just farming/camping shit....and to be honest i would much rather break fear then walk in with no mobs there and sit for hours waiting for it to repop. Morzinynin Ardaanien - http://members.xoom.com/Morzinynin - "chaos is the ultimate riddle" | |
Ablazen
Holysword  Global user (3/26/00 11:14:41 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Quote: Before you say this, make sure you know what your talking about. Sure doing a breakin is fun. But like i've said before, i'd rather be farming mobs for 6hrs, then sitting in the the oh-so-wonderful everquest chatroom for 6hrs when a failed break happens. So, while you don't havee to 'sit for hours waiting for a it to repop', you do gotta sit for hours in the chatroom. *sighs*
| |
| Cattie
Luv Global user (3/27/00 12:14:22 am) Reply  |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Dunno if it's just me, but i would rather face the challenge of a Break in, and the possibility to sit and listen to my guilds doubtfully sense of humor for a couple of hours, than sit and farm repop getting things i know i'm not worthy of. /Cattie Luv | |
| Ablazen
Holysword Global user (3/27/00 12:22:30 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Just as a note, i don't think i've ever been in a plane for a repop in my life, and i don't have a piece of valorium yet (so i definately can't not deserve something i don't have), so don't take my posting wrong. What i'm saying, i play EQ, well, to PLAY THE DAMN GAME. If i wanna chat, i'll go across the street to the University Pub and chat with some RL buddies, and get drunk at the same time. If i wanna play EQ, i don't wanna sit in the chatroom? Dunno if it's just me?
Edited by Ablazen
Holysword | |
| Cattie
Luv Global user (3/27/00 2:33:35 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Sure you can play the game. but you don't have to play in the planes when u play... for me the planes are something that will take time and lots of effort, and should be fun. sitting in a plane for 14 hours waiting for a repop (and no the guides will not repop a plane if ppl are in it). takes time, yes, effort, no. and is it fun? hardly. zone in after someone clear it and be a gimpy respawn farmer, don't take any time, and it's hardly a effort. and it's nowhere close to be neither fun nor a challenge. and ppl will think less of you. at least i would. break a plane, now this takes time and effort, and most of all it's fun. ppl will respect you, and it will fell damn good. i didn't have much respect for Storms Fury when i heard they were in PoF farming our repops, i had a chat with Drall about this, and later SF did break PoF, and i got a tell from Drall saying how good it felt. now i hold the utmost respect for Storms Fury, they broke a plane instead of farming repops. and my kudos to them. it's my thinking that if you don't have what it takes the break a plane, then you shouldn't be wearing any plane armor. yet i see ppl in nerly full planes armor, who's never seen the thrill of breaking a plane. Currently PoF is challeging, PoH isn't, i would like to see the roamers pathing go thru the SW corner, so it would at least add some small amount of challenge to that zone as well, and Innoruuk isn't linked to any mobs either, he will not DT when you attack maestro like CT does when u attack Draco, his buttpals, etc. and Innoruuk doesn't send out mobs after you when you get close. PoH is currently an easy zone, too easy. /Cattie Luv | |
| Ogmuk Administrator (3/27/00 6:32:19 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
I dont understand the "clue" of this post. Some people will gladly take part of a list from the Kobold King or PoF, some might feel lists should not be part of the game and/or feel they don't earn their equipment the right way by farming with a list. It's all about opinions, not about what's right or wrong. Cattie & Ablazen: I agree, chatrooms suck big time, but if I get the choose between a list or chatroom... chatroom all the way.
| |
Synjyn
DragonFist  Global user (3/27/00 9:25:28 am) Reply  |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Ok here is my 2cp on this issue. I agree totally that if any group goes through all the deaths, CR and assorted crap to break a plane that the pH4t l3Wtz that drop feel like they are much more valuable than if someone just walked up and handed the item to them. I also agree that it is not fun to sit and wait hours on end for a mob to spawn and I would much rather have a challenge. That is one of the reasons I play a monk and do a damn good job at pull'n. I have to use my brain and have stratagy about what I do. BUT Not everyone plays the game the way everyone else does. Some get their fun from the challenge of break'n a plane. Some get their fun and enjoyment because they got a nice piece of equipment. Just because you don't agree with the way another person enjoys the game doesn't give you the right to put them down or belittle them. Also everyone bitches about "we did the hard part and you are only farm'n". First off I don't give a fly'n rats ass if I was to break a plane and someone came in after me and started "farm'n". I got my enjoyment from the break in and the satisfaction that me and my team overcame the odds. Now the next guy can get his enjoyment of a nice item AND not have to go through all the BS of level loss and 4+ hour long CR. (NOTE: Yes I have been on 4+ hour CRs in Fear and successful break-ins after that CR so I do have the right to speak) I also agree with Ablazen, if I have to sit for 6+ hours do'n nothing but chat'n I'd prefer to do it in game and have the chance to get a nice item than just sit'n in a frigg'n chat room. Here is a scenario for you too. Guild A has had PoF scheduled for 9 am Saturday morn'n for the last two weeks. Well Friday night Guild B goes hunt PoF. Guild A hears about Guild B be'n in PoF Friday night and sends some tells say'n they were gonna go in 9am Saturday morn'n. Guild B sends a tell back say'n they will be gone before 9am Saturday so there will be no problems. Now Guild A has a delima. Do they go ahead and go in with no risk untill the repop and become labled as "farmers", even though they had planed on break'n in the hard way. Or do they wait untill the zone is fully spawned so they can do a we-broke-it-the-hard-way-and-earned-all-of-our-gear style, but in wait'n to do so have Guild C move in because no one is in PoF and don't care if they have to do a full break or can just walk in unmolested? Why sould Guild A be labeld "farmers" when it's not their fault they didn't have to break in the hard way. Why should they postpone their raid, which people have scheduled RL around, just because the zone isn't full and if they wait another guild could just move in anyway. They have put their time in to get to level 46+ and would like some nice planes items, but they have to now be ridiculed because the zone isn't full??? They have to be belittled because someone got there the night before they did and cleared the zone??? They have to cancle a raid people have made adjustments in RL to attend just so they are not looked down upon??? Why don't you people worry about your own and not what everyone else is do'n. If these "farmers" can't break the zone by themsleves then you never have to worry about be'n out of a challenging break in. You can break in, clear the zone, kill the gods and go on your way. Then the "farmers" can come in for a few days and get out then you can do your break in again when the zone is full. Do the "farmer" in full planes gear make your gear any less useful? Does it affect the stats of your gear? Does it change the obsticles you overcame to get it? Does it lower your self worth for what you have done? Does it change the fun you had get'n those item? Hell no. Some of you will say, just as Cattie has, that you have no respect for people that didn't "earn" their gear. Well do you really think those people will give a shit what you think of them? I know I sure as hell wouldn't and don't. The only people I care about what they think are my friends. I play this game to have fun with my friends and could care less what someone I don't even know thinks about a character I have in a game or what he does. I also don't care what someone else does when I'm through have'n my fun. Thats their buisness and doesn't affect me in the least. Ok, I've rambled enough. I have a habbit of do'n that *smiles*
| |
| Enki Unregistered User (3/27/00 10:37:46 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
PoH is easier now? Why? We found the southwest corner, pullers got better, and the lack of a wanderer wandering through said corner removes the huge non-existent pathing issues in hate that _directly_ affect the camp. However, before this, several lemming runs to the southeast corner were made, and PoH was deemed too hard. If you go back farther, no one went to PoF for ages because it was so hard. Now, a new tide of chasing after harder zones and more exclusionary loot drops seems to be emerging, if only to establish that the people that have the badass equipment really earned it. I seem to remember a time when a yekesha was something you earned, the king room was hard, and when solb was unpopulated because it was known. Face it people, zones get easier, respawn farming is viable as a loot gathering strategy, PoH will probably be harder then PoF next week, and when Kunark comes out, there will be breakin zones, and people that talk about "loving the challenge" after 14 hours of trying desperately to stay awake while sitting, bored in camp, waiting for the next double to triple pull from a zone that is populated by some clueless fool that has never _played_ the game, are crazy, because they aren't there for the vacuous challenge. They just want to be the only ones with the loot that says, "we've been there, we _are_ all that". Enki, 50th ench
| |
Mahlerion
.gif){kind=small} Global user (3/27/00 11:40:08 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Yes, I've had the "pleasure" of being in on a Fear breakin (Sudo, remember that 6-hour CR we went through?), and so have many others. I've also had the "pleasure" of being in on a Hate breakin (that one was "only" a 4-hour CR), and so have many others. Now, I'm being told that I'm a farmer because we had 30 people ready to go into Fear, supposedly after Da`Kor had killed CT and left and the zone repopped. This turned out not to be the case - 15 Da`Kor and friends were still there (I understand that CT dropped at 4 am and this was at 11 am), and they had EVERY RIGHT TO BE THERE, no complaint about that. They were respectful to Dracon and left soon after. Dracon requested a zone repop but the GM refused - we did not know WHY at the time. So, we were left with a choice - have everybody wait around for several hours while the zone refilled (blech) or go in and kill some interesting mobs. Sorry that you disagree with our decision, but it was a no-brainer, really. YES, we wanted to do a full breakin, and YES we will at the first opportunity. We were there on one day - a Sunday. Big deal. Before you start ragging on LoV some more, keep in mind that there was an even mix of LoV and MS there, plus a few extras. I would agree with you that items gained in those circumstances might "demean" the value of gear you had gotten via a full breakin, but don't leave out this in your considerations -- I have seen VERY low-level casters from the so-called uber guilds wearing SMRs (sure, their main char may have earned it, but THAT one did not. I don't care about that, but using your own set of "principles" you should); I have no doubt that you have had members come join a raid after the breakin who got gear while they were there (thus, their gear is also "unearned") Yes, I'm aware of the Da`Kor/Ice Clan points system for looting, but I'm not ranting at those two guilds. I greatly respect what they have accomplished. There are some individuals, however, who need to get a grip on reality. This is a GAME - your value as a human being does not depend on what items you have or how you got them. Now, can't we put all this BS aside and just let everybody play the damned game without having somebody else behave like an 11-year-old sticking out his tongue and going NYAH NYAH? Kudos to those who have gotten their gear through hard efforts, but it seems that it boils down to SOME people just wanting to have something others don't, in a futile effort to bolster their self-delusional feelings of superiority.
| |
| Guildon
Global user (3/27/00 12:53:58 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Well 11 year olds can't play after that magical date yanno the date saying that you have to be 13 and up to play. Wahoo EQ is now pg-13 lets see some Skin. We gotta get to a R rated game 
Guildon Goldenheart 48 Season Erollsi Marr Edited by Guildon
| |
| jaieq
muncheon Global user (3/27/00 1:52:28 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Well put Synjyn. You always seem to have my outlook on things, and word it so well :P.. Was about to post the same thing, until I noticede your post, yet I would probably get flamed for mine.. *shrug* Anyways. well thought out, and many points made that I think people don't seem to think about at times.
| |
| Gopher
Mobile Global user (3/27/00 8:36:29 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
One of the definitions of gimp is: n. fighting spirit; vigor That's hopefully what you meant of us. We fight stuff in the zone rather than chat for six hours about fighting stuff in that zone! Most of the guilds you call gimps have broken the plane. The chat room loses its fun after a while. If you don't respect me for it, then, well you don't respect me for it. Does your respect concern me? No. Hmm after reading the other post that GMs can respawn zone if nobody is in there...hmm...I dunno if I would opt for the GM respawn. I was under the thought that you wanted us to wait the 13 hours for it to respawn to go in, I dunno. Either way I still agree with what I said up there, just dunno about whether or not to ask for GM repop or not. Ah well, whatever happens happens, my armor is in PoH so I don't have anything not to earn rightfully there besides weapons on gods =) Bah! Pour Some Sugar on me!!!!!!!
Edited by Gopher
Mobile | |
| Parascol
Global user (3/28/00 12:09:18 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Hey Synjyn lets go hang out sometime =)
| |
| Faroe
Local user (3/28/00 8:17:45 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
This talk of 'earning' your plane gear and being 'worthy' really cracks me up. If your life is so bereft of accomplishments and your social life so empty that you must fufill these things in a computer game, then you are seriously fucked up. Seriously.
| |
| Parascol
Global user (3/28/00 9:20:28 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Woah Faroe! You ever comming back? heheh, we miss you =) Para
| |
| Kzzern
Global user (3/28/00 1:58:17 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
> If your life is so bereft of accomplishments and your > social life so empty that you must fufill these things in > a computer game, then you are seriously fucked up. Uh.. there's a big difference between feeling your life is fulfilled by getting loot in a game, and feeling that a game shouldn't be, as Sudo put it, "You say,'Give me [da phat loot]'". Just because some of us feel that a game should be challenging and the rewards in it should be measured according to skill and effort, we are suddenly fucked up and have no rl accomplishments or life? I think you're the one that's fucked up, if you can make such ridiculous and insulting generalizations about people you don't even know. I don't remember anyone ever saying that people that farm loot aren't "worthy" or are somehow less of a person than those that break planes. If someone did say that, I'll be the first to slap them around. I don't put personal blame on anyone for 'farming' loot. I realize that people sometimes don't really have a choice, and I do realize that some people don't view the game and the planes the same way that I do. But it is my personal opinion that the game (and pof especially) should be fixed so the challenge is the same every time. I love it how whenever people mention farming, everyone that farms gets personally insulted. It's not acceptable to call someone a farmer, but it is apparently acceptable to say that everyone that feels loot should be earned has no life or rl accomplishments. Check yourselves for large anal rashes and hypocrisy people. kzz
| |
Elwyn
 Global user (3/28/00 2:14:49 pm) Reply  |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
There's two types of people that play video games. There's the first type, that fires up his brand new copy of Doom (sorry, old example) and plays through the game. Takes him time and a lot of deaths, but he is eventually able to beat the bosses one by one, and eventually wins the game. Pretty satisfying. Person two gets his brand new copy of Doom, finds the cheat codes and sets it on God mode. He then proceeds to smoke through the game quite rapidly at absolutely no risk to himself, no dying, no challenge. Which type of person are you? Disclaimer: No, this is not a flame, just an anology that seemed appropriate to me.
| |
| Elwyn
Global user (3/29/00 6:42:56 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Oop, double post. Sorry, deleted this one the best I could.
Edited by Elwyn
| |
| Synjyn
DragonFist Global user (3/28/00 2:24:59 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Hee hee you forget Gamer #3 Completes the game the hard way, earns it all and is very satisfied. Then wants to play it over or with a different character and doesn't feel like put'n up with all the BS he has already earned and uses a cheat code once and a while to get to where he wants to have fun.
| |
| Faroe
Local user (3/28/00 3:23:49 pm) Reply |
I think I
struck a nerve.
Kzzern, scroll up a few replies to find the 'worthy' comment and commence slapping. As for being personally insulted by the farming comments, I have never been to Fear (my guy is still wearing leather in some places). I'm not a farmer. As for being fucked up, I quit playing this game several weeks ago and I still visit this board. How fucked up is that? Your not telling me anything I don't know. Elwyn, I can understand a person not wanting to be a guild leader. I wouldn't want that kind of responsibility myself, but by abandoning Salvation and joining Da`Kor you did the next best thing to turning on a 'god code'. Sorry people, I paint the picture as I see it.
| |
| Thalanthas
Brightspire Global user (3/28/00 3:35:55 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Well, I'm looking at your painting and it looks like you dally in Impressionism... Thalanthas Brightspire
| |
| jaieq
muncheon Global user (3/28/00 8:00:52 pm) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
> >I don't remember anyone ever saying that people that farm loot aren't "worthy" >or are somehow less of a person than those that break planes. If someone did >say that, I'll be the first to slap them around. > To refresh your memory Kzz check Catties second post. She doesn't respect farmers, or non plane breakers who have plane loot cause they are gimps. And heaven forbid someone not get respect from Cattie.
| |
| Ralik
Global user (3/29/00 3:47:48 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Hey I like doom with god mode... BLAST EM!!! Jesus Christ people. Does no one have respect for anyone elses individuality? So what if one person's concept of fun doesn't include the masachistic beating you take when you break the plane? Why do I (did I) go on planes raids? Where is the challenge for me? There is none. I've pulled so much and for so long, it's all the same. Find the "trick" to an area, and exploit it. That simple. So what if you look down on someone for doing something. Do they need to know that? Will they be a better person for knowing that you have no respect for them? No. So why are there so many posts with the same idea... Because we're only human. That is the excuse for the posters, and that is the excuse for the farmers. And I just want to add something about people not having "earned" the equipment. How do you figure that *anyone* could have played this damn addictive pos Verant calls a game to 50, and NOT earned a right to it? Maybe you've forgotten because you got 50 a while ago, or maybe you had "help", but I remember what it took, and it was a damn nightmare. If leveling were easy, there would be no "hell" levels, they would be "creampuff" levels, where the level fairy would swoop by and level you up after slaving for a whole DAY! <sarcasm> THE AGONY! </sarcasm>. If no one was happy when they got a piece of planar armor while "farming" a repop, then I wouldn't bother going, and I'm sure no one else would. But because I have a genetic defect that makes me feel good when others do, I actually enjoy myself. Go figure! (If anyone has ever seen a movie like "Rudy" and felt GOOD when he gets to do that 1 play at the end, you know what I'm talking about. Why the hell should that make me feel good? I didn't play the damn game. Hell, I don't even like Notre Dame.) -Ralik P.S. If anyone is selling a wizard with 100k+ mana, and the same for AC, let me know. I'll pay good money! Wizik says, 'Death touch this, beeeyotch!' Cazic Thule shouts 'WIZIK!' Wizik says, 'Ow.' LOADING PLEASE WAIT... Hrm. How about 100k hp? 
]
| |
| Gopher
Mobile Global user (3/29/00 6:31:45 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Oh yeah, maybe it's different for others but as far as the raids I go on generally most classes sit in a chat room while the monks get the corpses to somewhere safe in PoF. So what skill is involoved to the other classes during the break in? I dunno what challenge it really is other than finding the best way to the safe spot then keeping sane in the chat room for so long.
| |
| Gerome Global user (3/29/00 6:50:06 am) Reply  |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
I'm in a bad mood this morning from lack of sleep, so I'll just make it short, vulgar, and sweet. Fags that jump into fear to farm a repop are basically "using a god code" to get "their" plane gear. It's cheap, it's lame, and I can justifiably feel free to verbally sodomoize them all I want. I certainly can't punish them in-game on a carebear server so this debate will have to do. Oh, and I don't give a fuck if you're 50 - that's no big deal. Anyone can get to 50 with no skill, it just takes a lot of patience. Simply getting to 50 doesn't justify the right to own plane gear, if it did, perhaps a GM should come to you when you hit 50 and hand you a full set of it. Wouldn't that be a fun and exciting challenge!
| |
| Elwyn
Global user (3/29/00 7:35:30 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
I love when I make a general comment on something. There's always someone that feels the appropriate response is a personal attack on me.
| |
| Gerome Global user (3/29/00 7:54:54 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.
| |
| Descry
Global user (3/29/00 7:54:59 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
rofl, can't believe you brought up rudy you nutsaq.
| |
| Faroe
Local user (3/29/00 8:31:33 am) Reply |
Gerome(sign
me up)
For some reason, it doesn't piss me off when you call people fags and gimps and stuff. Maybe it's because you play golf and actually go outside and participate in something I can define as really challenging. You want challenge. Try working two jobs, going to school and building a house all at the same time. Try replacing the tranny in your Dodge truck, twice.(Goddam Dodges, I'm never buying another one as long as I live) Try to train a Cairn Terrier to not dig up the back yard. Try raising a family these days. Knowing when to push the 'taunt' and 'bash' button, flopping down on the ground and playing dead, then knowing when to stand up in a video game are not the things that impress me. I do have one question, though. 'verbal sodomy'? Is an anal fixation a requirement for becoming a Shriner or something?
| |
| Ralik
Global user (3/29/00 8:34:14 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Elwyn: Your statement was a personal attack at me, like it or not. See the top of my post. However, my post wasn't aimed at you. If it was, well.. I would have addressed you directly like so. Gerome: If your best friend is the worst EQ player in the history of mankind, and you help him level to 50... Then you bring him on a planes raid and he gets something, even though he does *NOTHING* to contribute other than wacking a mob/healing once in a while, what is the difference? Would you tell your friend to fuck off? "Sorry bro, only good people can get the good equipment. Have fun in LGuk." -Ralik P.S. Well Des, what can I say... DAT MUVEE OWNZ U!!!!!
| |
| Elwyn
Global user (3/29/00 8:58:09 am) Reply |
Re: Yet
another item I do not understand in my poor wittle brain......
Actually Ralik, I wasn't referring to you. I didn't take your post as a personal attack in any way. No, my post was not a personal attack at you, or anyone for that matter. My post was merely an analogy to GOD mode in the old Doom days, and I think it was a good one. Do I even say anywhere in my post that there's anything wrong with playing in GOD mode? No, but its interesting that people get defensive when its mentioned.
| |
| Koom Baya Unregistered User (3/29/00 9:02:56 am) Reply |
excuse
me?
What a bunch of pompous, pencil-necked geek assholes. Some of you actually think you're hot shit. Hahaha.
| |
| Gerome Global user (3/29/00 10:46:26 am) Reply |
Re: excuse
me?
Hi Faroe. Last I checked, this was a message board dedicated to discussion of issues on the Erollisi Marr server of EverQuest. And surprisingly, most of the posts here were discussing exactly that. Notice, this is not a "God, my life is so hard, I have to scoop up shit, fix my pickup, and beat my wife so a need a place to vent" debate board. Do us all a favor and take your bullshit to a board more dedicated to folks like you. Might I suggest, "Suicidal Egomaniacs".
| |
| Gerome Global user (3/29/00 11:09:03 am) Reply |
Re: excuse
me?
Sorry, I forgot to reply to Ralik... Ralik, if my best friend were to play EQ, and was an absolute clod as you describe, I'd do my best to teach her how to play better and earn her share. I certainly wouldn't feel good about her tagging along on a raid, soaking up gear from other people that "deserve" it more if she was basically not helping in some fashion. I'd like to think she'd get more enjoyment out of contributing than tagging along and sponging anyway.
| |
| HakNukum
Global user (3/29/00 7:16:45 pm) Reply |
Re: excuse
me?
Gerome, Hmmm...I'm jumping into this late, but some of your comments are a tad...off I think. >>Fags that jump into fear to farm a repop are basically "using a god code" to get "their" plane gear. It's cheap, it's lame, and I can justifiably feel free to verbally sodomoize them all I want. Feel free if it makes you feel more manly I suppose. The game allows this. Who are you to pass judgement on others? You the best player on the server? You make the game? What gives you the right to judge what is right or wrong? I may say the same of you walking into the King room in guk as a group (that broke it) just left. You didn't work as hard, why do you deserve the loot? Getting gear, is getting gear. Period. You don't like it, don't play any more. It clearly upsets you. I think it may just be that some of you leet playing people suddenly feel infringed upon because a lot more people are getting near you. "OH MY! Other people are getting gear as good as me. I must trigger my defense mechanism and beat them down. Perhaps phrases like "fags" and "verbally sodomize" will do". >>Oh, and I don't give a fuck if you're 50 - that's no big deal. Anyone can get to 50 with no skill, it just takes a lot of patience. Simply getting to 50 doesn't justify the right to own plane gear, Blah, blah, blah. Let me re-write your above paragraph. "Oh, and I don't give a fuck if you're 50 - that's no big deal. Anyone with less real life obligations can get to 50 as fast as I did with no skill, it just takes a lot of time. Simply getting to 50 first doesn't justify my right to be an asshole". When you start throwing around complaints about "farming" plane repops, and whining about people "deserving" armor, I just sit back and laugh at you. Have you nothing else to do? -- | |
| Rian Global user (3/30/00 12:01:26 am) Reply  |
Re: excuse
me?
Hak, I think Gerome stated in an earlier post that he has no planar gear. So I don't think he's trying to beat down people who are getting gear "as good" as his. He wears the same non-planar rags as the rest of you paupers!!! mwahaha <admires his piss-colored reflection in his hand-mirror> Rian Luckless | |
| HakNukum
Global user (3/30/00 1:50:56 am) Reply |
Re: excuse
me?
Rian, >>Hak, I think Gerome stated in an earlier post that he has no planar gear. So I don't think he's trying to beat down people who are getting gear "as good" as his. Maybe. But people seem to think that if you don't break Fear you haven't "earned" the gear. Sorry, just not right, and it's an elitist attitude, that will change soon as the planes become virtually broken all the time. I earned each piece of my Armor of Ro and anyone who's tried can attest to the pain it is to get. But I certainly don't hold any attitude over someone who just buys or trades for a piece, while it took me a week to get one. I bought my Ghoulbane, instead of camping 20 hours for it. Is it less deserved? Maybe, but whatever. I've got it now and it benefits me and my groups. I really do see it as a lot of "old" 50's kinda defensive that their turf is now being intruded upon on a regular basis. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. They have nowhere else to go, and tensions and attitudes are flaring at the influs of "new" people. -- | |
| Drall
Global user (3/30/00 5:06:36 am) Reply |
Re: excuse
me?
Deleted, /em tends to speak to much when hes hammered and say the truth
Drall Daboff Edited by Drall
| |
| Mahtan
Honorshield Local user (3/30/00 2:48:01 am) Reply  |
Re: excuse
me?
We're...I mean THEY are just waiting for you to break it for them, Drall. :-) *still without any planar items at all, and not unhappy 'cause of it* -- | |
| Gerome Global user (3/30/00 7:26:45 am) Reply |
Re: excuse
me?
I admit, I was in a terrible mood when I wrote my last set deliberately inflammatory remarks, and got a tad out of line. However, I get sick of all this bitching on here, and at some point I just snapped and tried to make my thoughts as crystal clear as possible, throwing political correctness to the four winds. I apologize to all the fags out there that got offended. Regardless, I am one of the few Enchanters on this server that does have plane gear, and to my knowledge, the only Enchanter that got it off the statics on the north side rather than the wanderers in the gimp corner before the loot patch. Fortunately, because of the difficulty involved in doing it, I have no fears that some yahoo will waltz in behind me and try to farm there. I also have faith that our other Enchanters (Yenom and Jirith) will be strutting around in some very soon. I guess I just feel bad for the folks (like me) that go through the challenges of the game, earn their gear, and then see it being proudly strutted around by someone that abused poor game design to get it. It reminds me of my younger brother, who when he was 10 years old complained about how his nintendo games were too hard without the cheat codes, then justified it by saying that without them he'd never "finish" the game. I remember when I was younger, games didn't have such cheat codes and if I wanted to "finish" or "beat" a game, I had to play a lot, practice a lot, and get better. When I finally won, the feeling was great. I had accomplished something. What's really depressing is how this situation parallels reality. It seems to me that many people, especially in the younger generations, don't realize how hollow victory is when you have to cheat to get ahead. Everything has to be handed to them on a silver platter, and they complain loudly when it isn't. Then when they do reach a goal, usually by taking some sort of shortcut, they could care less about accomplishing it. It was no big deal. To them, it's the normal and "right" thing to do, because it's the only thing they've ever done. Apathy increases, morals and ethics decline. Regardless, I'm off the soapbox. It is just a game... I'll have fun playing my way, everyone else can do whatever ya want.
| |
| Vendrix Global user (3/30/00 8:11:19 am) Reply  |
Re: excuse
me?
Regardless, I am one of the few Enchanters on this server that does have plane gear, and to my knowledge, the only Enchanter that got it off the statics on the north side rather than the wanderers in the gimp corner before the loot patch. Just wanted to point out that Dowd looted the first Enchanter robe on the server back before the gimp corner was discovered. That was back when myself, Dowd and 2 Monks would take an hour to "unstick" or "reset on the correct path" all the MOBs near the zone house so the rest of the group didn't get raped by a train when they zoned in. Of course that was back when Illusions could be used to avoid the inevitable "Pet-train-of-doom". Soon after which we were rewarded for our ingenuity by having illusions removed and the pets still there. Thanks. Vendrix | |
| Astounded Unregistered User (3/30/00 8:13:56 am) Reply |
WOW
"I'll have fun playing my way, everyone else can do whatever ya want." Smartest thing you've ever said gerome. /em smile And can TS and SF break up there little alliance so Gerome can start flaming Drall again. *I really miss the drall flames* (no offense Drall).
| |
| DowdMuk
Global user (3/30/00 8:29:32 am) Reply  |
Re:
Thx Venny=) I think Gerome meant 'pimp' not 'gimp'. Nice Abs btw...
Dowd Muk | |
| medstar31
Global user (3/30/00 9:36:24 pm) Reply |
Re:
Re:
Ok flame me if you want but heres my 2 pp. I ve been on both sides of this issue. I went to Fear for the first time after Da`Kor had broken and cleared the zone. It was a blast one for the fact that I was on FEAR and 2 because I saw alot off ppl get gear. Since then Ive been back 3 times all of which we broke the plane at a high coast. Now after doing it both ways I have to say I prefer to break it then kill everything in sight much more satisfying then doing the repop. You get a sense of accomplishment by doing it the hard way. You do feel like you earned your gear. When Storms Fury and Tarsis goes in and breaks Fear we do the pop and leave. We do it right IMHO. But I get rather pissy when I see 18 ppl camped at the portal to PoF just waiting to jump in when we leave. I have the utmost respect for any guild or guilds who try to break PoF and Im willing to help with sugestions or man power for CR.But camping a portal so you can get in for a repop just plain Sux Ass. Do it right. As for the issue of PoH I was in Hate last weekend when a hodge podge group who couldnt possibly hold the zone laid claim to it. So we opted for the NE corner camp and went in. Kudos to Da`Kor and Ice for even trying to camp that corner its a Fucking Nightmare there. We all died 10-15 times each from Inno DTing ppl or the ever present Spite train. But the gear drops were amazing (Congrats to Gerome on his new robe). Id much rather try to figure a way to do NE corner then camp my ass in the SW corner and pull POS NO DROPING ROAMERS. Just my 2 pp flame away Zalig Ironstar Master at Arms Storms Fury
| |
| Mahtan
Honorshield Local user (3/31/00 3:15:41 am) Reply |
Re:
Re:
Zalig...we had 20-24 people in hate when you came in, I wouldn't call that a "hodge podge" group. As Inno started to DT you guys, I must say that some people in our group at first chuckled about it, but that soon changed when it just didn't stop...personally, I think it was a gutsy move to go to the NE corner, but that doesn't mean that you should try to belittle us. -- | |
| Zalig
Ironstar Global user (3/31/00 6:26:11 am) Reply |
Re:
Re:
Ahh sorry Mahn didnt mean to sound that way. As it was told to me during our break into the corner you only had 12 ppl in there. I must have been misinformed. And pleae dont think Im saying ppl dont deserve a chance at planes gear. I just think its more fun and challenging to break it rather then to come in for a repop. You guys did a great job holding the SW corner while we were getting DTed by Inno and I hope you got some good stuff while you were there. Again my apologies if I sounded belittling not my intention. Zalig Ironstar Erollisi Marr Cross me and know Deaths icy grip. |
|
 Email This To a Friend Topic Commands (Moderator
only)Subscribe Click to receive email notification of replies |
|
CREATE YOUR OWN FREE MESSAGE BOARD
Powered By ezboard™ Ver. 5.3.9
© Copyright 1999, 2000
ezboard,
Inc.