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| ANON Unregistered User (1/6/00 6:40:22 pm) Reply |
TARSIS
SHRINERS - KSing AT IT"S FINEST
To make a long story short, we had 3 groups in kk and were on Phin, when a group of Shriners was in the zone. Well, one of the shriners yelled EVAC EVAC EVAC and tricked one of our groups into evacing....our other two groups died. Then the shriners finished off our Phin. It is a sad day in eq.
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| Eurmuthur Unregistered User (1/6/00 8:43:20 pm) Reply |
Tarsis
Shriners
Ok, I've had some bad run-ins with the Shriners, as I'm sure many have, but don't get me wrong, I feel some of them are quite nice people, but some of them are just plain rude. For example, when I was approx. lvl 35, I was hunting with my group in Sol B near the window room, engaged with a GK, when all of the sudden, a little gnome pops up by the name of Falambus and blatantly steals our kill when we had been fighting the thing for a good 10 secs. Also, a little bastard wizard by the name of Phingel ninja looted a ring of the ancients off of an ancient cyc that Torf solo'd. Torf, already having JBoots, was waiting for a friend who was in the zone to come get the ring. He will also openly admit to this, since just about every time he's in the same zone as Torf now, he likes to say YOINK! 2 little bastards indeed. Anywho, I have no hard feelings towards the Shriners for this, just the individuals involved. I hope for the sake of that guild that someone sets them straight, because from the various people I've talked to about them, their name is less than 'favorable' at the moment.
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| Malbian Unregistered User (1/6/00 9:47:15 pm) Reply |
Well
said
I think you hit the nail on the head, eu. the guild leader should take the bull by the horns and solve the problem. Norrath is a world, where just like in the real world, what goes around comes around. People do not forget. Oh and Falambus, i was in a group with him once that killed Nox and it dropped the SGD. The group decided to give it to him, he being the only caster, and wearing oracle robes. instead of a thank you we got 'now i have X less Intelligence'--needless to say the rest of the group wasn't happy, after all, one person died in that battle. oh well (
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| Omisan Unregistered User (1/6/00 11:45:27 pm) Reply |
Tarsis
Shriners
Hi, my name is Omisan, and I am the leader of the Tarsis Shriners. In reply to all of you that don't like us, open your scaberous ass cheeks and catch a clue you roleplaying knob jockeys. I wish we had finished Phinny now. It would have made those idiot casters that evacced look like even bigger morons. You guys didnt have a chance. Everyone was sceaming "OOM", and by the time I shouted evac, Phinegal had just complete healed himself. Hell, I probably saved a bunch of your worthless lives. You all just need an excuse to explain your gross incompetence. As far as blacklisting our guild goes, GO AHEAD. It's not like we ever grouped with a bunch of saps like you all before, and it's not like we need you now. If it makes you feel less impotent to pretend we wanted to hang with you, super duper, Chucky. PS Anonymous poster, you are a big pussy. Luv U All, Mean it, Call my people we'll do lunch Omisan, The Ron Jeremy of the Tarsis Shriners
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Da
Sensei  Global user (1/7/00 1:49:13 am) Reply |
Re: Well
said
While I certainly won't deny that some of our members have participated in the lesser respected "arts" of EverQuest, I won't stand idly by and watch us be lied about. First of all, we did not kill Phin, nor did we even attempt to. But that's not telling the whole story, and since I'm 2 Shiner Boch's away from bliss, 3 songs from Stevie Ray Vaughn's 'Little Wing' and 20 minutes from the next 70's Italian badly dubbed Skinemax flick (she's furry baby, FURRY), I guess I'll set the record straight. 12 of us went to Kedge last night to see if Phin was in need of a beat-down. When we arrived, we realized that there were 16 people (if I remember right) in the zone and about to pull him ... Chev's D'Honuer (sp?), Salvation, whom we group with rather often, and some others. So we decided to sit around at the entrance, figure out what to do next and see how the Phin group did. Jirith, one of our enchanters, went to where they were to see how they were doing and give us a play-by-play. They pull Phin and a guardian something (sorry, only done him once and was drinking that night) and maybe something else. OOC and the shout channel erupt with their combat messages ... "OOM," "Slam!", etc. Being, of course, the hooligans that we all are (it's a clan pre-requisite before you get your Fez), Omisan shouted a few words of encouragement ... namely, the words "EVAC!" and "EVAC!". Sure enough, one of the groups doing Phin evacs. The 16 or so doing Phin (was at 50% at the time, if I remember Jirith's report right), now down to 10 or so, could not handle him, and after a few deaths were forced to evac themselves. Shocked and amazed that someone would be so, umm, "intelligent" as to just evac his/her group when some random person nowhere's near them shouts "evac," we nevertheless pretty much laughed our frigging' asses off. Some of us are still laughing, in fact, and in retelling this story over the next few years, will indeed chortle, guffaw and "tee hee" about it again. Seriously, however, and quite honestly, we debated going and finishing Phin ourselves at that point. Our consensus decision, however, was to instead offer to help CR. This was, for whatever reason, vehemently turned down by Daedthor (sp?), I think, although you'd really have to ask Omisan who he offered our help to. I can't say as I understand the logic of that, nor appreciated the manner in which I was told it was turned down (you'll have to ask Omisan for direct quotes), but irregardless, even after being spurned so to speak, we decided to leave. Hell, people died to our form of entertainment, and while we certainly accept no blame for it because we weren't the jackass who evac'ed his group, we're not going to be such assholes that we then take the frigging mob. Now far be it for me, the lowly scribe, to opine on someone else, but it occurs to me that rather than bash us for being the funloving, sassy rogues that we are, IT WOULD BE A REALLY, TRULY BETTER FUCKING IDEA TO BASH THE FRIGGING INCOMPETENT FINGER IN HIS SPHINCTER JACKASS THAT EVAC'ED HIS FRIGGIN' GROUP OUT OF A ROOM HALF A ZONE AWAY FROM SOMEONE WHO RANDOMLY SHOUTED THE SINGLE WORD 'EVAC'. Course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong.* Here's the thing tho, guys and gals ... most of us, if not all of us, are, in fact, what most people would consider assholes. *gasp* We're sassy. The sassiest people, in fact, most of you will ever have the pleasure, or if you are a fucking moron like Mr. Anon above, displeasure of meeting. We are also very cliquish, as a good half of us have known each other for years and years (the Shriner's are -- say it with me Kizzie -- a 7-year-old MUD clan from Arctic MUD), and the rest either know a member in real-life or made a real strong impression in game. Or sent us lesbian porn. We're the sort of people that find things like that Phin incident so un-f*&kingbelievably funny that we'll be telling our children about it. And, as many of you have no doubt realized in grouping with us, some of us are more pleasant than others to group with. I guess the best I can say there is roll the dice, take your chances. Personally I don't know why you'd leave home without a Shriner in your group, seeing as how 4/5 dentists agree and all, but to each his own. I can't honestly name a guild in this game worth a shit that hasn't screwed someone else at some time or other. And I, as could probably most of you, could list dirt or some unfortunate occurance on every guild in the game and most of the better-known players. Why we should be so different or be singled out is beyond me, but if you'd like to try to schmack us, give it your best shot. Bring tissue. To address the points above briefly, as many of you know, when we've had a member in our merry band of degenerates who is truly being a problem (ahem, "Jackie") we made efforts to make sure it was taking care of -- as in Jackie's case, where we booted his ass. But if you think we're going to discipline Falambus for not saying 'thank you' or for someone accidentally or intentionally kill-stealing 5 months ago or ninja-looting something, then you know what? Don't stay up to late waiting for it, cuz baby, it ain't comin'. In summary, those of you who know us, know us, those of you who'd like to try are more than welcome to and those of you who'd just like to slam us, whine about us, not send us lesbian porn and/or lie about us, feel free to kiss our collective asses. Luv ya, mean it, - Chai * Yeah I know it's Dennis's line, kiss my black ass. PS: If you are going to run some schmack, have the friggin' cajones to not do it anonymously. PPS: *YOINK* PPPS: If you like to know more about us, or simply take our "Best Breasts of EverQuest" contest form out for a drive, feel free to stop by at: http://www.netech.dynip.com/shriners
Edited by Da
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| Daethdor Unregistered User (1/7/00 1:31:28 am) Reply |
clarification
in clarification of the incident I will say this was my point of view... we were in the middle of fighting phinigel and a guardian... we had already established that no one may call evac except trillium and i... otherwise we would be in trouble... omisan called an evac at a critical point in the game as a joke and 1 group evaced... it is in my opinion that we still could've taken phinigel as i have been on raids and helped killed her 4 times in the past... i never accepted nor denied any offer on the shriners behalf in assistance with cr and in fact was never offered in the first place... but to make an analogy more clear for others to understand... granted this being a game and all... if two armies are facing each other on the field of battle and one man offsides yells fire as a joke... who is at fault? the soldier who is already standing ready to listen to the first command? or the joker that yells fire... incidentally yelling evac at that moment cuased us to lose 10 people not save anyone omisan...
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| Da
Sensei Global user (1/7/00 1:43:00 am) Reply |
Re:
clarification
"... we had already established that no one may call evac except trillium and i..." I'm sorry, dude, but in retrospect, that quite honestly makes it about 10,000 times funnier. You really should stop buying evac casters at Sears. - Chai
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| Klarr Unregistered User (1/7/00 1:56:00 am) Reply |
Hmmm
I read your post over and over again mr anon and i cant figure it out. Is this post anti-shriner, or anti-your group? Admitting that your group failed because someone not even in your group shouted "EVAC" twice doesn't say too much for your damn group. Yes, I'm a shriner. Yes, if this happened to me, I would LAUGH. Someone evac'ing over the shout makes the shout even funnier. You blaming the failure on the shout makes it even more funny. Get an operation and remove that damn stick (I think you know where it is.) I'm glad about the reputation I get as a shriner. I can cause groups of people to fail by uttering a word. I can laugh at things in the game, even if it has to do with a bad thing happening to me. I can blame myself for my own mistakes and learn from those mistakes. The more you have to blame someone else for your failure, the less you can learn from your failure. To daethor: only you and trill may call evac. More reason to blame the evac'er, no? He should have known only you two could call it, and he jumped the gun.
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| Klarr Unregistered User (1/7/00 2:01:12 am) Reply |
Re-Daethor2
Sorry for a double post. Your analogy is a very bad one, because in a war you have no idea who calls "fire" for the other side. Your group knew exactly who would call "Evac." This is a major difference in the two situations.
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| Daethdor Unregistered User (1/7/00 7:05:38 am) Reply |
understanding
we all justify our own interpretations for what happened that night... and its clear that you are set in your definition as many are in ours... if you guys really find it that funny then its cool with me... either way everyone will ultimately make thier own calls on this... its no biggie to me... to be honest i'm just tired of fighting with people in game when it should be the mobs... i've always believed that people can work out thier differences and have a good time together... thats what makes this game such a fun thing for me personally... i'd hopefully like this string to end quickly so that we can all just move on... flaming is always a pointless and destructive means to an end... and its something that takes so much fun out of the game as a whole... i wish everyone the best...
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| Vendrix Global user (1/7/00 7:11:33 am) Reply  |
Weak excuse,
really...
Chai, Your self amusing excuse for calling "EVAC" was along the same lines as a group of punk kids yelling "FORE!" on a golf course just to watch the players duck for cover. It's funny at the time, until you are the one holding your arms over your head for no apparent reason. Neither you, nor anyone in your group was aware of the circumstances under which the people fighting Phin were playing. Perhaps they brought along a friend who had never been to Kedge Keep or seen the fish king before. Sure, it may be common knowledge in higher level groups that you don’t evac from certain places, but not everyone knows that. Add tension, battle spam and the thought of a potentially very-long underwater CR to the mix and it's easy to see how an in-experienced wizard may have jumped the gun while trying to protect his party. I wasn't there. I can't say for sure what happened. I'm just offering up a potential scenario that could have been played out in Kedge that day. Your justification is just plain weak. Why don’t you go train some people in Lower Guk next, that sound like it would be a hoot! Vendrix |
| Walterscott Global user (1/7/00 7:43:34 am) Reply |
Re: TARSIS
SHRINERS - KSing AT IT"S FINEST
I'd have to agree with Vendrix on this. I'm lower level than you guys so I don't have experience in those areas yet. But in the heat of battle when things are flying by on the screen fast, it's kind of a rude thing to do to shout for an Evac. Albeit the caster should have taken faster notice to who did the shouting, but for a first timer the nerves were probably kind of high. So adding to the chaos wasn't the most courteous thing to do. Your humor cost people their lives. I don't find humor in that. That's just my unbiased, unknowing opinion so don't be offended. Walterscott Level 35 Cleric Servant of Mithaniel Marr
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Gerome
 Local user (1/7/00 7:53:15 am) Reply | Edit |
What really
happened.
Hi. My name is Gerome, and I'm a Shrinaholic. It's obvious you all take this game very seriously. It should also be obvious that by and large, we don't. Personally, I still think it was funny. I have a log of the whole thing, including Jirith, who was invis at the battle calling the play-by-play. A brief snippet (unrelated guild chat, and obligatory laughter, and a conversation regarding the anatomical name for that strip of skin between a woman's vagina and anus edited out for brevity): [00:14:52] Jirith tells the guild, 'im going to ninja over' ... [00:17:17] Trillium shouts, 'if phini comes ona a pull.. with guardians..ignore the guardians and concentrate on phini' [00:17:28] Jarric says out of character, 'No shit =P' [00:17:34] Trillium shouts, 'no' [00:17:46] Trillium shouts, 'they heal.. but only phini does a complete heal' [00:17:52] Trillium shouts, 'thats why we bash and stun' [00:17:55] Daethdor says out of character, 'you'd think it was obvious huh jarric... but i've seen some bonehead moves' ... [insert spooky foreshadowing music here] ... [00:21:32] Jirith tells the guild, 'they have like no tanks' [00:21:48] Jirith tells the guild, 'they pulled phin' [00:21:57] Jirith tells the guild, 'they got it' [00:22:06] Jirith tells the guild, 'one swirlspine (normal) and phin' [00:22:42] Gerome tells the guild, 'they dying?' [00:22:47] Jirith tells the guild, 'not really' [00:22:53] Jirith tells the guild, 'phin at 50' [00:22:55] Jirith tells the guild, 'with two dead' [00:22:59] Delilah tells the guild, 'bah they got it' [00:23:01] Dakk tells the guild, 'ah well' [00:23:03] Shadowe tells the guild, 'weak' [00:23:05] Jirith tells the guild, 'phin got healed' [00:23:07] Jirith tells the guild, 'cheal' [00:23:29] Jirith tells the guild, 'there is a swirlspine beating on clerics' [00:23:46] Perenor says out of character, 'BASH STUN ' [00:23:49] Omisan tells the guild, '30 players, 29 playters' [00:23:53] Thalanthas shouts, 'bash and stun, even if resisted' [00:24:08] Jirith tells the guild, 'taunted swirl enough' [00:24:20] Jirith tells the guild, 'phin at 50' [00:24:25] Jirith tells the guild, 'his hps are moving slow' [00:24:26] Gerome shouts, 'This is Jirith Cosell' [00:24:27] Daethdor shouts, 'KEEP BASHING AND STUNNING' [00:24:29] Delilah tells the guild, 'they didnt bring an enchanter??' [00:24:29] Daethdor shouts, 'KEEP BASHING AND STUNNING' [00:24:44] Jirith tells the guild, 'another horse came from nowhere' [00:24:51] Daethdor shouts, 'KEEP BASHING AND STUNNING' [00:24:53] Daethdor shouts, 'KEEP BASHING AND STUNNING' [00:25:03] Daethdor shouts, 'KEEP BASHING AND STUNNING' [Ed. note: This next 2 seconds shall be chronicled in folk songs someday.] [00:25:04] Omisan shouts, 'EVAC!' [00:25:05] Jirith tells the guild, 'they're getting nervous' [00:25:06] Omisan shouts, 'EVAC!' [00:25:07] Fuan shouts, 'katz down, cleric down' [00:25:11] Delilah tells the guild, 'musta been repop....they waited too long' [00:25:13] Daethdor shouts, 'NO' [00:25:19] Daethdor shouts, 'DON"T EVAC' [00:25:27] Ramierez shouts, 'Shit' [00:25:30] Jirith tells the guild, 'phin at full' [00:25:31] Omisan tells the guild, '26 players!' [00:25:33] Jirith tells the guild, 'guardian at full' [00:25:34] Moebium tells the guild, 'they evaced' [00:25:35] Lumber says out of character, 'who evacced ?' [00:25:37] Daethdor shouts, 'FUCKING OMISAN' [00:25:38] Jirith tells the guild, 'err phin at 50' [00:25:39] Ramierez shouts, 'Omi you ain't even here..wtf' [00:25:45] Jirith tells the guild, '40 now' [00:25:55] Omisan tells the guild, '25 players' [00:26:00] Shadowe tells the guild, 'shit cam [Ed: cam a.k.a. Omisan], now we're gonna hear a bunch of shit! hahahah' [00:26:03] Jirith tells the guild, 'they dead' [00:26:07] Omisan tells the guild, '24 players' [00:26:16] Omisan tells the guild, '23' [00:26:18] Biggdadi shouts, 'EVAC' [00:26:20] Biggdadi shouts, 'EVAC' [00:26:26] Delilah tells the guild, 'man we did this easy with like 12 ppl' [00:26:27] Jirith tells the guild, 'gating' [00:26:30] Fuan shouts, 'group is odown' [00:26:35] Fuan shouts, 'tanks down' [00:26:36] Delilah tells the guild, '18' [00:26:49] Cerebus tells the guild, 'how many evaced?' [00:26:50] Delilah tells the guild, '15' [00:26:51] Omisan tells the guild, '15 players' [00:26:53] Jirith tells the guild, 'gating so im not on shit' [00:27:06] Omisan tells the guild, 'here come the tells' After this, Daethdor was contacted by Omisan to see if we could help with CR. Deathdor, upset from the colossal loss we witnessed, um... "declined vehemently" *cough*. We had no plans to "yoink" the mob, thus adding insult to injury. After about 30 minutes we moved on to let them CR in peace. Given the massive influx of whines, in retrospect I think we shoulda grabbed it, but that's another issue. It's my opinion that their demise was unavoidable. I may be wrong, who knows. I don't think there is any way Omisan's shout should have influenced the outcome, especially after I read this (posted above): Daethdor: "we had already established that no one may call evac except trillium and i... " What REALLY happend was that things were going badly, and Omi's joke shouts looked like a great way to scapegoat us for their incompetance. It's human nature to blame one's mistakes on others when possible. Consequently: Will these folks stop grouping with us? Definately. Given our observation of thier skill, is this a big loss? No. Will some other people stop grouping with us over this? Probably. Are we going to lose any sleep over it? No. Will we look back at this and laugh? Definately. Oh, one final point. Those of you that feel the need to tell/ooc/shout flame us in the game need to step back, drink a beer (assuming you're not the typical 15 year old here), and ask yourselves, "Is this really going to accomplish its goal of making them feel bad about it, or is it going to give them vast amusement at hearing me bawl?" Then move on. It's a game. -Gerome
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 8:17:24 am) Reply |
TS
True that it's only a game, but there *are* real people behind the keyboard right? I mean you guys are the ones who have extended a MUD clan into some sort of RL frat, no? On your webpage you proclaim that TS is a PLAYER clan, not a CHARACTER clan. I can't help but get the feeling that despite all of the bravado, trash-talking and testosterone charged posing, you guys are no different than anyone else. If someone pulled any type of "stunt" against you or your friends, you'd be just as pissed (maybe more), over this "game". You can laugh it off and make people feel/look stupid because this time the joke wasn't on you, but I hope you maintain the same level of "sassiness" when the day comes that it is.
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| Gerome
Local user (1/7/00 8:21:51 am) Reply | Edit |
Re: What
really happened.
And on a side note, I'd like to point something else out. Sure, Kedge is underpopulated. But that doesn't mean you should consider using the broadcast channels as a means to communicate between groups. /say works just dandy. Noone else in the zone needs or wants to hear your multi-group spam. Only YOU can prevent forest fires. -Gerome
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 8:26:32 am) Reply |
multi group
communication
Sorry, but until Verant decides to implement some multi-group communication mechanism to support the fact that they have deemed that anything worth doing requires 3+ groups, people are going to use the zone-wide channels. Using /say *might* work, or it might not. What if the person you are trying to get through to is out of /say range? Should you then try a /tell? I think in zones where there is a possibility of a multi-group event happening (Planes, Dragons, Phin and that's it), people have come to expect that there may be some /shout or /ooc event related traffic.
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| Prints
Global user (1/7/00 8:32:02 am) Reply |
Re: multi
group communication
I agree that more than a little confusion happens everyday in the global channels. Verant really needs to code something along the lines of "Private" channels.
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| Gerome
Local user (1/7/00 8:34:05 am) Reply | Edit |
Re:
TS
I got news for ya stud... It happens to us. We get trained, KS'd from, generally screwed with. Sometimes just because we're Shriners. It happens to everyone sooner or later. Life in a multiplayer game. However, if we die to our own stupidity, we mock the stupid people directly at fault. In this case, if it was us at Phin, and some Salvation cronies thought it be funny to shout 'EVAC!' and one of our casters evac'd, the person that shouted it would not get a single tell. In fact, if I know Omisan, he'd try and recruit the person that shouted, cause it was funny. When the dust settled, the stupid caster that evac'd would get tore into for a few minutes, then we'd go about setting up CR. We're not perfect. It's already happened a few times to us, and it's part of learning how to play well. But, we learn from our mistakes and move on. Will they? We also don't lose sight of it being "just a game", and noone ever logs out pissed/annoyed enough to start a flame/whine thread on a public board 2 days later about it. Something to think about. -Gerome, a real person, that just needs to be loved.
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| Delilah
Scissorhands Global user (1/7/00 8:38:24 am) Reply |
Defending the
Gnomes
I have no clue as to why I am defending the gnomes (Falambus and Phenglei)...maybe cause we abuse them so much in-game. In SolB window room, yes I remember this well. We had been there for over 2 hours pulling the upper tunnels when Eurmurther brings his group and parks it right above us. Since there was a group in the big circle room, one in king room, and one in noble room, well you can see through geography that we are cut off from practically every dog except the ones that pop in the window room. The group above us could (and did) pull every dog in the upper tunnels. Falambus was only sending a not-so-subtle message to your group that what you guys did was not appreciated. At the least we could have worked out a spawn rotation, but no one seemed to want that. Phenglei and the YOINKING of the ring. Well this has been discussed on several message boards. There is a reason Verant made certain items LORE and made corpses open game after 2 minutes. If you want the item, you must participate in the kill. If you absolutely must give the item to a guildie, then you should have held the corpse. It is my opinion that the people who whine the most about this game think that their $10 a month gives them the right to shape EQ into their little world governed by their sense of morality. Well I'm sorry to move you out of your happy space, but get real please. Perhaps some of you misunderstand what it means to be a Shriner. Well, most likely many of you will never understand, but nevertheless, saunter over to our webpage posted above and read The Sensei's little essay on what it's like to be a Shriner. I think you'll get a kick out of it.
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 9:11:56 am) Reply |
Re:
TS
You're missing my point. I'm not referring to KSing, training and ninja looting (you forgot that one; it's another thing which TS was accused of earlier). I'm referring to "jokes" which screw up something you are working on and generally fook up your evening. OK, so you guys aren't so "stupid" as to Evac when someone /shouts it during a raid. Congratulations, you guys are truly giants among the intellectual gaming crowd; have a beer. There may, however, be something that you *are* "stupid" enough to do, right? What happens, though, if *I* call it stupidity, but *you* don't agree? Would you be pissed then? You know that not everyone is at the same experience level and that some first time (at a multi-group raid) casters might panic and evac when they hear repeated shouts. You also know that not everyone has RL ties to each other like you guys apparently do; hell, not everyone in these raids is even in the same guild. I'm sure the evacer did catch some shit, but there is no reason that the joker who crashed the party to begin with shouldn't catch some shit as well. You seem to want to pretend that you guys are all far too cool to be susceptible to basic human nature, but I'm sure there is something which will push your buttons also. Maybe it isn't KSing, training or shouting evac, but experience tells me that if I search hard enough I will find a thread where a holier-than-thou "shriner" was bitching his ass off about something. To me, if you guys had simply said "Hey, it was a badly timed joke but you guys really should get those casters some training. No hard feelings", it would have been no big deal. That didn't happen though. It was more like "Hey, fook you idiots, you don't think it's funny when you die? Fook yourself. You're the ones who were dumb enough to listen. It's ONLY A GAME, jackoff!". That kind of attitude just get's a rise out of people and if you deny that it would get a rise out of you, you are FOS...
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 9:21:08 am) Reply |
Delilah
The point here is that we ALL pay the same $10. Some of us don't care, and don't want to care, about what it "means to be a shriner" (no offense intended). Maybe you guys just need to realize that when the "humor" isn't appreciated, it's best to step back a bit, and show some respect for the space of others rather than just telling them to "piss off". I've never had any problem with you guys (I think I actually helped you out once before on something), but I think that in this situation you guys are dead wrong. I "get the joke", but what happened at Kedge pissed a lot of people off and it seems that you guys couldn't care any less. Whatever rationalizations you want to make, that is just a bad attitude. If bad attitude is really what TS is all about, then that is all good. At least everyone will know what they are dealing with now...
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| Jirith
Global user (1/7/00 9:26:04 am) Reply |
Re: prep
h
I have an itchy hole. Damn.
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| Prints
Global user (1/7/00 9:27:26 am) Reply |
Re: TARSIS
SHRINERS - KSing AT IT"S FINEST
Quick summary up to this point. 1. A mock shout of Evac was made 2. The party fighting Phin had already lost a cleric at that point. (See log) 3. An already nervous evac'er pulled the trigger 4. Must have been a reason for the evac'er to be nervous (see item 2) 5. There was no KS'ing involved 6. Whoever anon is needs to know his facts before accusing anyone of KS-ing 7. Tempers on both sides have flared I suggest we all do something positive about this instead of flaming back and forth all day. Why doesn't everyone that has put time into writing here, send Verant a letter requesting that some form of multiple-group channels be made. It's quite obvious that as more of us get to the dragon/plane lvls, that this is going to be needed to avoid confusion in the future. -I can feel the love in here-
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| Gerome Local user (1/7/00 9:35:30 am) Reply | Edit  |
Re:
TS
I'm not trying to shit all over someone else's misfortune. Omisan did offer assistance, he said it was a joke, but we got reamed. Fine, we probably deserved it. We woulda been fine to let it drop and maybe smooth shit over down the road, after people chill out a bit, just as you suggest. Then some anon fag trolls for a flame war here. We're responding with the whole story - you can make your own mind up whether a) it was our fault or theirs or both b) what we tend to believe in and c) if you want to be pleasant or crappy towards us in the future. I personally feel just a little bit bad that they died. But I also think that's part of the risk you take when you go against a 50+ mob with newbies on the button.
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| DowdMuk
Global user (1/7/00 9:58:53 am) Reply |
Re:
TS
Well this post was far out. First off the ANON post was so freakin lame and bogus to begin with. Only Lesson learned.. Don't make joke /shouts when ppl are fighting bosses. I don't think Omisan was trying to cause any real harm but it wasn't a wise thing to do (and maybe he didn't realize the error at the time). Only person I was dissapointed at was the Guildmaster for his SERIOUS lack of PR (sure the ANON poster was a pussy but cmon.. call HIM out). My experiences with the Shriners has been positive and I refuse to blame the whole for the mistakes of a few. I think ya'll should kiss and make up =) Now quit it! DowdMuk
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| Getting Laid Unregistered User (1/7/00 10:45:58 am) Reply |
Take a
break
It is quite obvious almost everyone that has posted to this thread needs to get laid. Take a break you non getting laid lamers. REALITY CHECK
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 11:25:46 am) Reply |
Agreed
Yeah, I agree Dowd, time to move on. Plus, I have to admit to likeing that little, green, bird flipping ball in Gerome's post :D
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| Delilah
Scissorhands Global user (1/7/00 11:27:12 am) Reply |
Ealan
When people message you with very ugly tells you are *somewhat* forced to defend yourself. Right after the EVAC joke (yes it was a joke) just about every Shriner in Kedge got flooded with purple text. Every tell was a flame...not once did someone think it was a joke. We were automatically blamed for every death...and boy you should have heard their tones of voice. I myself expressed remorse at their failure to kill Phinny (at least to the people who messaged me the most). But I had absolutely zero tolerance for people who blamed us for their failure. What are we to do when people trash us like that? Ealan, we are not 'elitist snobs' who only see things a certain way. When things don't go our way, we don't bitch and whine...we move on. When things turn out in our favor, we don't gloat like a teenager who just lost his virginity. After playing this game for several months I can smell the self-centered, immature, no-life gamer a mile away. These are the ones who think that nothing they do is wrong and everything belongs to them. Rarely do they step back and evaluate their own actions. Instead, they often run to message boards (usually ANON) to trash others in hopes of gaining support to justify their anger. Avoidance of having to group with these kinds of people is the main reason for joining a guild with mature players.
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| Jai Unregistered User (1/7/00 11:32:51 am) Reply |
LOL
Now theres a mature post... *falls out of his chair*
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| Jai Unregistered User (1/7/00 11:33:43 am) Reply |
Doh
ack.. just to clarify, that was meant to go the "getting laid" port :o
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 11:52:06 am) Reply |
Moving
on...
I hear you Delilah and, for me at least, the air here is clear; well except for itchy cracks, getting laid, and bird-flipping balls. But that's another story all together :P
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| HakNukum
Global user (1/7/00 3:12:13 pm) Reply |
Re: Moving
on...
Bottom line and ONLY issue. You DON'T go into a high level place where hours of experience are on the line for a death and yell EVAC in a raid. You cannot blame a nervous caster for evaccing. It was a mistake, but it was one initiated by a loser Shriner. the head of the Shriners no less. Man you guys should be proud. This is just something you don't do it. Unless of course, you're an immature, bored, pencil-dicked asshole? My .02. Mileage may vary. -- HakNukum Level 41 Dwarf Paladin Erollisi
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| Faroe
Local user (1/7/00 3:44:29 pm) Reply  |
Re: Moving
on...
Picture this courtroom scenario: 'Yes, your honor, I did yell FIRE in a crowded theater, but all those people who were trampled to death should have checked to see if there really was a fire or not. They must be a bunch of fucknut newbie theater goers who don't have the kind of theater going experience our group does.' 'That is why I don't feel responsible in the least for what happened.' 'Cause you see, your honor, we are a fraternity of sassy, fun loving folks and we will be laughing and telling our children about this escapade for years to come as I'm sure you and the rest of the courtroom will.' 'Furthermore, some of us offered to take some of the corpses to the morgue, but were rudely refused by grieving relatives! Can you believe that? The nerve of some people.'
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| Breez Unregistered User (1/7/00 4:13:06 pm) Reply |
sorry, but
hahahaha
Shriners: 1 Lamers: 0 time to move on Breez Lightfeather
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| Ealan Unregistered User (1/7/00 4:16:36 pm) Reply |
Trolling now
Breeze? (NT)
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| Kegolan Curebringer Unregistered User (1/7/00 4:19:11 pm) Reply |
Little
Late
Sorry little late on the posts but i have to add this. Omisan- What makes it so funny to laugh at some stupid thing you did which caused a group to evac and 10 people die? Its Sooo stupid you did that, You think it was funny that person evac'd? What makes it so funny huh, If i were that person id evac too but you have no idea why do you? Well listen to this, that person was in a zone where only 16 people were in it which would be the scenario of course because noone goes into Kedge unless they are going on a raid or maybe maybbbee experience. Well anyways if Trillium or Daethdor told you guys that when they call "EVAC" you evac right? Of Course anyone would, that person evac'd because she/he saw "EVAC" thinking it must be by Trillium or Daethdor because theres no other group or people in the zone. So the Person that Evac'd only sees the red letters saying evac they dont check the name who said it only the words. Heck any Wizard/Druid would. By the way Omisan i have learned that doing stuff stupid enough like that gets you nowhere. Yeah it may give you something to laugh about a few times but you and/or your guild will always have the rep of a nonetrustable guild. And you will hate it because you will get invite to little or no raids of any kind. And you cant invite more people because they will know what you did. Im not saying this to only the guild i have some friends in the guild even but Omisan what you did was just not right and Its only for the people who dont know how to play this game right. To Trillium and Daethdor- good luck next time i know you could have done it just check for Omisan's next time :) Kegolan Curebringer Druid of the 48th session Curebringer Family
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| Keslear Global user (1/7/00 5:13:17 pm) Reply  |
Re: Little
Late
I'd like to see someone post the log of an actual person from the battle not from a shriner point of view that will show a slightly different perspective and it wont be so short I imagine Omisan's EVAC was seen VERY briefly by whomever evaced. That being said I think Omisan needs a littel PR ass reaming himself seeing as he is so full of shit that should help clean it out. Keslear Raener
The Raenore
Erollisi Marr
"They have us surrounded and outnumbered.......The poor bastards!"
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| Poobah Unregistered User (1/7/00 5:35:06 pm) Reply |
Little
Late
I haven't even played EverQuest for months, but I still got a chuckle out of Omisan's antics and the resulting boo-hoo's. It makes me proud to see that the sass lives on even within Verant's severely pussified game environment. To the guy that thinks that shouting something on a MUD is equivalent to causing a panic in real life: get a grip, turdblossom. It is a GAME. I know it stings when you screw up and are momentarily the fodder for someone else's amusement, but suck it up, move on, and maybe try to learn from your corpse-generating mistakes. The more you cry and try to make a big deal about it, the more legendary the fuck-up becomes, and the more proud the ShrinerCorp stockholders become of their organization's achievements. To the guy that thinks the Shriners should care more about the purity of their reputation than in having fun playing the game: good luck with your EverQuest "career", you freaky ladder-climbing drone. I hope that when you reach level 50, you can look back on all that mindless camping and take satisfaction in your efficiency and utter lack of personality. Meanwhile, the Shriners will continue to rule you and whatever game they happen to be playing. Ham on, Nate
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| Eurmuthur Unregistered User (1/7/00 7:11:54 pm) Reply |
Delilah
In response to your post about the bastards, err gnomes: That day in SolB, it was so long ago I forgot how and where your camp was set up, but if we did invade your space, a simple "We were pulling from here, could you please find another spot?" would've done the job much nicer than having Falambus KS from us, it's called common courtesy. As for Phin taking the Ring, you'd figure some people would be decent enough to allow the person that killed a mob the right to do what they wish with the loot that mob carries. I can't say I'd have done the same thing if I were put in his position, but if I had, I can promise you that I would not walk around like a pompous ass and spout off Simpson's slogans. I understand that you people take this game light heartedly, as do I, but I can't stand people that dick around with other people for the sole reason of being dicks.
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| Da
Sensei Global user (1/7/00 8:38:42 pm) Reply |
Vendrix
Not really sure why you're teeing off on me, but such is life. Couple of things I'd like to rebut (sp?) with, however: 1) I didn't offer any excuses -- I simply explained what happened. 2) In terms of scenarios, here's one for you: what if we had been fighting in the zone, screwed up and Omisan's "EVAC" was intended for us, but someone in that Phin group still evac'ed? I guess you could make an argument about intent, which to some extent is valid, but then again it's still funny to me either way. Scenarios are really only worth so much. All fun and games aside that night, btw, we as a clan offered our help to CR. Contrary to popular opinion, we don't find 10 people dying that night all that funny (just the evac part), and wanted to help. I guess that doesn't count for anything when you are trying to make a point though. 3) "Why don’t you go train some people in Lower Guk next, that sound like it would be a hoot!" I'm sorry you have that impression of me, honestly. I'm cocky as hell and have no problems holding back when I think someone need's a dose of schmack, but I certainly don't find training people or kill-stealing amusing, personally, and I do my best not to do either. Only time I remember KS'ing from someone was some night way the Hell back in Upper Guk at the Shin Lord, and to be brutally honest I wasn't that happy doing it. But Zack (Sutaan), wanted a Ghoulbane, we planned the trip for a week (getting everyone on, etc.), and when the group decided to stay there (after I cast a vote of "move on" and duke it out I did it without question because Zack has been a close friend of mine for almost 5 years of online gaming. Right or wrong, my loyalities will always lie with my friends, and I'm proud to say every single person in our clan feels the same way. I make no claims for anyone else wearing the Shriner title because irregardless of outcome, howerver, because we personally believe in the individual's right to play how they want. And for better or worse, every other member will back them 100% ... that's who we are. We have guys and gals in our clan that don't respect the rest of the players in the game to some extent. That's life, and while perhaps I didn't say it very well in my initial post, my opinion of that is simply that while I don't personally condone it, they are friends, they are clanmates and beyond saying "err, *bad*", I'm not going to do a helluva lot about it, and I offer a "kiss my ass" as a door prize because I just don't see worrying about it as a beneficial way to spend time. What cracks me up about all of this is as I found out tonight talking to Dave (Onyyn) about the Fear raid tomorrow I was invited then disinvited to tonight, apparently I got blacklisted as well over this Kedge thing. I honestly don't understand that, as every guild has their black marks (Da'Kor too), but that's fine, I guess. If the general populace feels the need to stereotype everyone in ShrinerCorp. as a bad seed, that's fine ... we generally dislike grouping outside the guild anyways, and are maturing quite nicely into a guild more than capable of handling the fun stuff without outside help. On a personal note, though, I find that sort of sad ... I've been grouping with Da'Kor since like August, and thought I was friends with several of your clan's members before there even was a Da'Kor. We've certainly welcomed any and all Da'Kor members in our groups (ever someone so unbelievably short as Onyyn, or as phenomenally bad at schmack as Leiran), but if you feel the need to "blacklist" me or anyone else in our guild to be poitically correct, as it were, so be it. It's dissapointing because I enjoy grouping with Onyyn, etc., but I understand. Something you might want to think about though, while you cheerily make all these assumptions and act on them in the future in EverQuest and beyond, really, is that using the logic I'm seeing behind most of these posts and my personal "blacklisting", everyone in Da'Kor is a greedy selfish snob, everyone in Ice Clan is a zone-destroying trainer, everyone in Divine Grace is a, err, "Lucas," etc. etc. Stereotypes certainly make for an nteresting way to see the world, don't they?. Luv ya, mean it, - Chai
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/14/00 3:32:44 pm) Reply  |
FYI
nvm the IP :o Edited by Ogmuk at:
1/14/00 3:32:44 pm |
| Tzzird
Global user (1/7/00 9:29:00 pm) Reply |
Re:
FYI
*snicker*
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| Garalux Unregistered User (1/7/00 9:34:54 pm) Reply |
Bwahaha
Sounds like the group pulling Phin just had a newbie who bought a high level account on eBay. Notice none of the other 2 groups evaced, only the moron who jumped the gun, EVEN after the rule about only those 2 guys calling evac. If you can't even keep track of who's in your 3 groups, you're gonna die of stupidity sooner or later. Wonk!
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| Da
Sensei Global user (1/7/00 9:43:55 pm) Reply |
Re:
FYI
Cam ("Omisan") and Nate ("Poobah") share a house, MacGruff. -R
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| Zenarchy Unregistered User (1/7/00 9:54:28 pm) Reply |
reply
Now THAT is funny! Zen
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/7/00 10:04:01 pm) Reply |
heh
Not interested if they are sharing same house/car/keyboard just giving some info. |
| Zenarchy Unregistered User (1/7/00 10:13:56 pm) Reply |
um. what I
mean....
What I mean by funny is this entire thread. I have been on one Kedge Raid and I believe it was the one directly following this escapade. Everyone constantly stressed ONLY this guy and this guy can spam EVAC. they even did a test that was like EVAC*EVAC>>>EVAC>>>EVAC so everyone would know what the spam was to look like. My first time in and I was jumpy also, but I'm just a tank. BTW, I don't endorse your joke simply because at the level I'm in it takes like 2 hrs per bubble of xp lost and dieing sucks... But DAMN MY RIBS HURT!!! Zenarchy Whacka 44 Troll Chick Servant of Innoruuk In Service of Shadowspawn
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| Jai Unregistered User (1/14/00 3:34:37 pm) Reply |
:o
24.whatever is 99.9% of the time a cable modem... could be staic or dynamic, depending on the provider, which can be found quite easily. so your IP "comparison" doesn't mean anything :) EDIT: Deleted the IP address -- Ogmuk
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/7/00 10:25:54 pm) Reply |
bah
Chai 2nd it... so, shoo! :) Same house :P |
| Ablazen
Holysword Global user (1/8/00 1:33:44 am) Reply |
Re:
bah
99% of all connection (cable, ADSL) are on dynamic ISP's. Static ISP's are rare nowadays, as IP address's are quickly filling up. That being said , no one gives out static IP's cause they don't way you to be a web host =)
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| Walterscott Global user (1/8/00 7:44:55 am) Reply |
Wrong
Ablazen...
Completely incorrect Ablazen.. I have a STATIC IP... Comcast probably the biggest provider of Cable Modems uses static IP predominantly...
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| Gerome Local user (1/8/00 9:18:54 am) Reply | Edit |
Re:
FYI
Ogmuk, where do you get off giving that information out? First of all, whether or not Poobah and Omisan are the same person is irrelivant. Second, Nate and Cam are roommates but their IP is private information. Especially given the anti-shriner sentiments and the lack of maturity on the part of some folks here, giving the IP address out opens them up to attacks if the IP is indeed static. Not cool, bro.
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/8/00 10:08:19 am) Reply |
Re:
FYI
On each non-EZ board the IP address is shown to everyone, unfortunatly EZ board does not have that function. If it had, I'd active it. When you write a message you'll see your IP shown on the page, means you will have to be careful with whatever you write since people will know what your IP address is. I don't know what's possible when you know someone's IP address.. but I doubt it can be harmful since your IP address is shown everywhere you go. |
| Jai Unregistered User (1/8/00 10:40:59 am) Reply |
fyi
A lot is possible if you know someones IP address Oggy. Which is one reason why if say, you see me in irc, 99% of the time, I use a DNS bouncer, so it doesn't show my REAL ip. There are DOS attacks, exploits, and all kinds of stuff on the net that can really screw with someone, if not screw up their computer. Trust me, I had a real good friend that got attacked and put her computer out of comission for roughly a week just getting it working again. Just hit rootshell.com or any of the exploit sites and you'll see what I mean. I can't remember who posted about the attacks in this thread, but its a valid concern. If you wanna test Oggie, just give me your IP one day, and ill crash your system for ya :) Might just wanna be more careful next time. Jai
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| Poobah Unregistered User (1/8/00 11:06:27 am) Reply |
re:
FYI
Cam and I also share your mom, if you think that's relevant; wouldn't want to withhold any important information. Good detective work, Sherlock! Carry on! --Nate
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/8/00 12:02:22 pm) Reply |
Lol
Jai
I gave my IP in this thread, so do your best |
| Keslear Global user (1/8/00 12:19:22 pm) Reply |
Re: Lol
Jai
Ogmuk there is an option to turn on ip adderess in ezboard. It may only be for admins and moderators to see but ther eis away to turn it on and I dont think you need to be an admin. Gimmie a email at mailto:[email protected]and I'll tell you how if you want it. Keslear Raener
The Raenore
Erollisi Marr
"They have us surrounded and outnumbered.......The poor bastards!"
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/8/00 12:32:48 pm) Reply |
EZ
boards
With EZ boards (in menu "options") you can unfortunately only make IP shown to admins. Edited by Ogmuk at:
1/8/00 12:32:47 pm |
| Ablazen
Holysword Global user (1/8/00 12:29:38 pm) Reply |
Re: Lol
Jai
Walterscott...hmph...don't know...but up here in Canaada, I tried established a static IP addy at home, i contactALL ADSL companiese avilable in my area (namely phone companies) and all cable providers, and got the same respone: 'we do not permit the use of static ip's on our service'. *shrug* Anyways..i got 64 statics ip's i can worth with....so bah! )
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| Jai Unregistered User (1/8/00 4:18:44 pm) Reply |
>:O
you also posted your IP from yesterday. And you have a dynamic IP. So not unless you've been online all that time without disconnecting after making that post, then that IP doesn't do me shit :) So I will reiterate, give me your CURRENT ip while we are both online, and then ill fuck around with a bit, and prove peoples concerns :o! Or actually, next time Ill check ICQ while your online and see what IP it says (that is, if you have "don't show IP" turned off), and if all of a sudden your computer dies, bluescreens, etc. IT was probably me. But, I won't do it without permission from you (to prove a point), cause ISP's don't take nicely to people doing things like that :) comprende? bueno.. Jai
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/8/00 6:06:17 pm) Reply |
heh
It will be hard to tell which blue screen was yours and which was Microsoft :P Anyways, sure, it's a deal.. go ahead. I know it wasn't smart to let yer IP be shown in the time of the progies like Win NUKE and stuff like that.. but everyone and their mom (even my folks) got the patch to repair that bug. :) So.. I'm gonna sleep now, unfortunately :P You can try tomorrow, I'll open ICQ for you hehe. Edited by Ogmuk at:
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| Chukzombi Astrocreep Unregistered User (1/9/00 5:21:27 am) Reply |
made a
booboo
just from judging the size of the TS replies not the content you would think bein blacklisted DOES bother you. hell you are human . maybe ya thought it was funny at the time yellin evac. thinkin nobody would actually do so . but that is where things can go really wrong. same goes for real life . i know a few of ya guys and some of ya are pleasant sorts. others not so pleasant. same goes for any guild. but i think you guys were aware what a bruhaha that caused with the players in Kedge. compounding that you pulled that prank with most of the largest guilds on the server. not a good move. i agree it is a game but those high level camps are serious business encompassing many hours of RL time. and a thing like that is quite aggravating . because now you have most likely double the time spent on doing something as tedious and unproductive as CR . being a hardcore camping guild like yours you should have known what a chore all those resses and time you cost. others know that too. so that is why so many ppl think what you did was malicious. in MY guild i would have had my members offer their services to the groups in trouble. and if ya did that you would have gotten a chance for the loot Phigiel dropped. if the groups didnt want your help when ya zoned in, you should have left. you obviously saw your prey was camped. you should have offered help from the get go. saves a world of aggravation. Chukzombi Astrocreep (Shadow Killers) "GM"
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| anon Unregistered User (1/9/00 9:09:09 am) Reply |
re
great words leader of tarsis shriners NOT you are the biggest piece of shit i have ever heard of and so is your guild, which is nothin but a bunch of pussys if the faggets in your guild had any nuts, then maybe they would actually kill something, maybe they have something like a helm with a few casts of grow nuts...... just a thougt for your pathetic guild you hoser good luck on actually beating someone in a guild war you fag
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| Kzzern Unregistered User (1/9/00 11:32:03 am) Reply |
ok let's end
this thread here plz(nt)
nt
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| Ogmuk Administrator (1/9/00 11:40:57 am) Reply |
Please
Don't use profanity, else I'll have to close the thread or even delete it. Thanks. |
| Medion
Palemoon Global user (1/9/00 12:55:19 pm) Reply |
Re: TARSIS
SHRINERS - KSing AT IT"S FINEST
Gotta love that last post. Caling you all pussies, telling you to grow nuts...and oh look, he even posted "anon". Gotta love those people. I'm back, everyone pretend to care. |
| Keslear Global user (1/9/00 8:59:17 pm) Reply |
Re: EZ
boards
Ok never actually bothered to check who couls see the IP. Keslear Raener
The Raenore
Erollisi Marr
"They have us surrounded and outnumbered.......The poor bastards!"
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| Aurore
Local user (1/10/00 4:17:13 am) Reply |
Right and
wrong
TS acted irresponsibly and were from the available information largely or partly responsible for people losing work, time, and having a rotten time. The argument that this is 'just a game' is irrelevant. If I have a rotten time, fail to sleep (due to having to recover my corpse), and have to go and do something I would prefer not to have done (go and recover xp I already had), I dont care if its a game or real life, the fact is Im having a bad time. If someone is responsible for me having that bad time, and compunds this by insulting me in the form of jeering and telling me that i have 'the wrong attitude' it only makes it worse. If you choose to view the game in a certain way - as far as I can tell in a way that makes it ok to treat other people as jokes, play practical jokes, and generally behave childishly - do not assume your way is right and everyone elses is wrong. The bottom line is that you should only screw with people who want to be screwed with. Ie other shriners and similar guilds. The rest of us see your behaviour as unacceptable and you should respect that by confining your antics to your own kind. Furthermore you are quite right when you say you are different. I have never seen such an immature post from a guildleader as the one from Omisan. We are obviously not playing the same game. I wont blacklist individuals just because of the guild they are in, but I will certainly not group with people who share the prevailing attitude of TS. Why? not because of any moralising, but because I dont want to play the game you are playing. We may both call it EQ, but it isn't the same. Aurore
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| iham Unregistered User (1/14/00 1:24:53 pm) Reply |
none>
anyone of the leaders of the shriners would tell you that if you take this game too seriously, then you shouldn't be playing it
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| Walterscott Global user (1/14/00 2:19:30 pm) Reply |
Any chance we
can close this post?
Tired of seeing at top of my new lists, seems we should move on? My opinion at least.
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| Aadon
Global user (1/14/00 2:26:39 pm) Reply  |
Hate to make
the thread any longer but...
Sorry pet peeve of mine...(and I am nothing even CLOSE to an english major) "irregardless" is not a word...nor is it slang...the word I think you were looking for is "regardless" "...but irregardless, even after being spurned so to speak..." should have read "...but regardless, even after being spurned, so to speak..." anyway I'm done Aadon Irontree 42nd level Druid Erollisi Marr |
| The
Sensei Global user (1/14/00 2:55:59 pm) Reply |
Re: Hate to
make the thread any longer but...
Heh ... well, I was a Journalism major, and Mr. Webster (of the famed Dictionary Clan) would argue that point with ya :) Non-standard, to be sure, but "accepted" as a blend of 'irrespective and regardless.' All hail the never-ending thread! Love ya, mean it, - Chai
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| Falambus
Global user (1/15/00 11:25:05 am) Reply |
*stare*
(nt)
..
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| Pellanne Unregistered User (1/16/00 6:35:05 am) Reply |
The Future of
KSers
We have seen what happened to Ebon Lore. I don't see how the TS behavior is any different from the crap we had to put up with from Ebon Lore. Some take the game seriously and others don't but an ass is still an ass. It was a very mean hearted move with only negitive results. There is a copy of the log posted on this board and we have heard from the Guild Leader that he enjoys causeing others trouble. Its time to petition every single bone head move any member ever does and get this crap as team off the server. Pellanne 47th Pali EM
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| Delilah
Scissorhands Global user (1/17/00 9:51:51 am) Reply |
Psychology
1001
There appear to be two types of people in this world: Type-A and Type-B. Type-A: This person tends to be more serious, uptight, stressful, and high-strung, yet also more persistent in his goals. For example, he is your 60+ hour a week workaholic who justifies his efforts with the reward of money and power. How he is viewed by the rest of the world is very important to him. Consequently, self-esteem is often a problem as he is constantly searching for ways to attain it. He has a narrow view of right and wrong, often believing that his own ideals should be shared by everyone. As a result he has little tolerance for that which he does not endorse. Half the world is Type-A to some degree. Type-B: This person is more laid-back, often appearing to not have a care in the world. She likes to joke around and can laugh when she is the target of humor as well. Self-esteem is less of a problem for her since her goals tend to be intrinsic (i.e. she doesn't care what other people think about her) in nature. She has a high level of tolerance, often reacting indifferently to the actions of others since nothing much really bothers her. Half the world is Type-B to some degree. Is there a 'right' type to be? No. People will be what they are, it's human nature. But there are situations where one type would be a better choice over the over. Would you want a Type-B as President of the US? Probably not, we have one now and he's a joke. Would you want a Type-A calling out the play-by-play of a hockey game? Hell no!...I enjoy the 'and Jagr beat him like a red-headed stepchild!' style of commentary. Everquest is a massive role-playing game which means many people interact with one another. The Type-A takes it seriously whereas the Type-B plays it for fun. If a joke by B with *no harm intended* adversely affects A, should B be punished? If this were real life, probably, the stakes are much higher. But this is a game. Treat it as such and I think you will enjoy it more, but mind you that's coming from a Type-B. Ebonlore was disbanded for a variety of reasons. But in particular Ewle would intentionally cause harm to others. This involved things like FD training to clear the zone so she could have a spawn spot, blatant kill-stealing to deprive others of items and experience (she was level 50 and stealing boks), and using a 3rd party program to most likely obtain an unfair advantage (I think this is what she really got banned for, but we will probably never know). The Tarsis Shriners do not endorse this type of behaviour. Those of you that know us know this. Often times our actions may be perceived by someone (usually a Type-A) as being wrong. In reality, there was no right and wrong, but that person will insist he was right and tell everyone else what an ass guild the Shriners are without providing all the facts. I have zillions of stories involving people such as Santino, Morlox, Ange, Thalantas...and a lot more...where we were made out as the bad guys for doing absolutely nothing wrong. In the past we have been shrugging it off, but it's gotten to the point where I am personally disgusted at all the undeserved negative PR. Ergo the long post. Sigh, time to shut up now. Cyas
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